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[00:56:09] <tyler> !ping
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[00:56:34] <tyzoid_> !ping
[00:56:35] <phrik> pong
[00:56:44] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: I'm back home now
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[01:01:40] <r00t^2> tyzoid_: here's the AIF config for "stable": https://pastebin.com just uncomment (remove the  ) line 26
[01:01:41] <phrik> Title: [XML] <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>  < - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[01:03:05] <r00t^2> and you might want to self-host the scripts found at lines 46 and 48. the url attrib accepts file:// URI specifiers, i believe, as well so you could cook them directly into the ISO- but they'd have to exist *inside* the chroot install
[01:03:34] <r00t^2> tyzoid_: sorry, i meant "for testing repo, just uncomment..."
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[03:04:12] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Sorry, just got back to this. Is there a particular reason why base-devel appears twice?
[03:04:19] <tyzoid_> Want to make sure before I remove that
[03:06:11] <r00t^2> tyzoid_: oh, it does? no, you can remove the dupe
[03:06:48] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Also (just trying to understand the script), I don't see where grub gets configured?
[03:07:02] <r00t^2> oh, it's one of the presets for AIF itself
[03:07:17] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Ah, I see: <bootloader type="grub" target="/dev/sda1" efi="false" />
[03:07:23] <r00t^2> yep
[03:07:28] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Does that automatically trigger the grub package to install?
[03:07:34] <r00t^2> yep!
[03:07:35] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Or should that be added to the pkglist?
[03:07:37] <tyzoid_> alright, sweet
[03:08:07] <tyzoid_> I put the scripts up on http://dl.tyzoid.com ftr
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[03:08:47] <r00t^2> sure thing, just make sure you change the <script> elements to the proper url
[03:09:00] <r00t^2> and they're also untested and totally off the top of my head, so they miiight require tweaking
[03:09:19] <tyzoid_> Yup, will do
[03:09:38] <tyzoid_> So what do I need to do to get it to launch on boot, then?
[03:10:53] <r00t^2> just two things: 1.) in your ISO's isolinux.cfg (or whatever), add this to the kernel cmdline: aif aif_url=http://path/to/your/aif.xml
[03:11:06] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Just install/boot aifclient and change kernel params?
[03:11:08] <r00t^2> then ..wait, i think i have this documented
[03:11:10] <r00t^2> yeah
[03:11:37] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: I was pulling up the docs as I was asking
[03:11:43] <r00t^2> it also needs to be started on boot; there's a systemd unit
[03:11:45] <tyzoid_> just wanted to make sure I had everything
[03:12:06] <r00t^2> yeah
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[03:12:14] <r00t^2> the stuff at https://aif.square-r00t.net should be all that's needed from scratch
[03:12:15] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: I can't remember, you're in the US, right?
[03:12:16] <phrik> Title: AIF-NG User Manual (at aif.square-r00t.net)
[03:12:23] <r00t^2> tyzoid_: correct; philly
[03:12:57] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Ah, nice.
[03:13:18] <r00t^2> i wanna say you are too- somewhere south of the mason-dixon?
[03:13:32] <tyzoid_> nope, north of mason-dixon
[03:13:49] <tyzoid_> and east of mason-dixon
[03:14:08] <r00t^2> ah, so we're in the same region, nice
[03:14:16] <r00t^2> oh wait
[03:14:22] <tyzoid_> Sorry, west
[03:14:23] <r00t^2> and east of it, so... UK/EUR
[03:14:26] <r00t^2> lol
[03:14:33] <r00t^2> well NOW I'M CONFUSED
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[03:14:36] <tyzoid_> was thinking of a different line *embarrassed*
[03:14:50] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: I'm up in Ann Arbor, MI
[03:14:52] <r00t^2> OH
[03:15:24] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Pretty close still, though, internet-wise
[03:15:42] <r00t^2> for sure! i'll buy you a beer next time i'm up in the area
[03:15:58] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: Lol, when are you next planning on coming up?
[03:16:07] <tyzoid_> hopefully not within the next month :P
[03:16:09] <r00t^2> oh hell if i know; i'm like the wind with these things
[03:16:10] <r00t^2> nah
[03:16:19] <tyzoid_> I turn 21 in just under a month
[03:16:49] <tyzoid_> It's always funny, being the only guy in a group who can't drink yet
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[03:17:31] <r00t^2> the next month is hella busy for me anyways; i have a talk and a workshop for FOSSCON, i have to write an article on THAT for opensource.com, i have a couple hacker cons to help plan.. very busy. guess how much of that is done. lol
[03:18:08] <r00t^2> 7 slides for my talk. that's it.
[03:19:19] <tyzoid_> r00t^2: You gonna talk about AIF-NG?
[03:19:52] <r00t^2> nah- podcasting with open source software, actually
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[03:20:00] <r00t^2> the workshop's on bdisk, another one of my projects
[03:20:10] <tyzoid_> ah
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[15:01:46] <deep42thought> City-busz: Are you there?
[15:02:07] <deep42thought> !bug 54953
[15:02:09] <phrik> http://bugs.archlinux.org
[15:02:14] <deep42thought> !bug 54954
[15:02:15] <phrik> http://bugs.archlinux.org
[15:02:18] <deep42thought> !bug 54955
[15:02:20] <phrik> http://bugs.archlinux.org
[15:02:33] <deep42thought> and brtln:
[15:02:40] <deep42thought> !bug 54956
[15:02:41] <phrik> http://bugs.archlinux.org
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[17:00:34] <tyzoid> lol
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[20:35:36] <deep42thought> tyzoid: although, I appreciate the fast responses to the bug reports, I don't like their content :-D
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[20:45:33] <tyzoid> deep42thought: What'd I say?
[20:45:42] <deep42thought> you just lol'ed
[20:46:00] <tyzoid> oh, that was in regard to eschwartz leaving right as I was about to tell him something
[20:46:00] <deep42thought> you didn't say anything about/in the bug reports
[20:46:08] <deep42thought> ah, hmpf
[20:46:21] <eschwartz> what?
[20:46:25] <deep42thought> lol
[20:46:30] <tyzoid> I had a question for you, but I forgot it now
[20:46:41] <tyzoid> it wasn't anything important
[20:46:59] <eschwartz> oh, your bugreports.
[20:47:16] <deep42thought> so _this_ is, how you start a conversation from nothing ;-)
[20:47:18] <tyzoid> deep42thought: So regarding the NetworkManager on the ArchISO, do you have any opposition to me creating an additional iso build?
[20:47:32] <tyzoid> i.e. i686, dual, and experimental?
[20:47:38] <deep42thought> it's ok for me, if it's ok for you
[20:48:01] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Takes about 5 extra minutes of hitting 'go' and letting the build do it's thing
[20:48:09] <deep42thought> isn't nm vs. w/o nm another dimension?
[20:48:20] <tyzoid> not sure what you mean
[20:48:25] <deep42thought> so we would have i686, dual, nm-i686, nm-dual?
[20:48:37] <tyzoid> deep42thought: For the experimental, that would include more than just NM
[20:48:52] <deep42thought> what would that be?
[20:48:53] <tyzoid> deep42thought: but I'd only make a -dual from the experimental build
[20:49:02] <tyzoid> deep42thought: It'd also include AIF-NG
[20:49:14] <deep42thought> ah, so for testing, hmm, yes
[20:49:34] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Both for testing, and so users can have the "nonstandard" features if they want
[20:50:32] <deep42thought> if i686 with nm fits on a cd, just include it for now
[20:51:05] <deep42thought> then we can wait for upstream on some comment and maybe split off another iso in the future or skip our hack, because it enters the iso in upstream
[20:51:51] <deep42thought> I would like to keep the autotest-iso as close to i686 (and/or dual) as possible in order to rule out any bugs introduced/leveled by the additional packages/config
[20:53:22] <deep42thought> tyzoid: what more additional features besides nm would you like to include?
[20:53:44] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Apart from AIF-NG and nm, none
[20:53:55] <deep42thought> ah, ok, then it's fine :-)
[20:54:20] <tyzoid> deep42thought: So for the upcoming iso build, make all isos with nm?
[20:55:47] <deep42thought> yes
[20:56:50] <tyzoid> Sweet. r00t^2: So we've got a plan for the builds coming up
[20:57:02] <r00t^2> tyzoid: yeah?
[20:57:04] <tyzoid> r00t^2: Our -dual.iso build will include AIF-NG on it
[20:57:16] <tyzoid> r00t^2: which would also enable mainline to be installed using AIF-NG
[20:57:22] <r00t^2> oooh nice
[20:57:24] <tyzoid> r00t^2: Not sure if you wanted to do any testing yourself with that
[20:57:33] <tyzoid> r00t^2: but thought I'd mention in case you wanted to :)
[20:57:45] <r00t^2> i don't think i have time but i'm excited for the plan!
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[22:10:19] <deep42thought> not good: there are packages whose build-time dependencies can only be met in an x86_64 environment
[22:10:53] <deep42thought> e.g. python-pifpaf checkdepends on mongodb which is not available for i686
[22:10:54] <deep42thought> :-(
[22:33:06] <eschwartz> feel free to mark the "architecture" field as i686 BTW :)
[22:33:16] <deep42thought> yeah, I noticed
[22:33:19] <deep42thought> will do
[22:33:44] <deep42thought> sry, I'm a little tired (and make some simple mistakes)
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