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[11:42:08] <deep42thought> rewbycraft: Could you please add some ram on the buildmaster? Currently, 'git gc' dies from too low ram - and I have already tried to limit it's memory hunger :-/
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[14:42:10] <rewbycraft> deep42thought: How much ram are we talking about, also tried a swapfile?
[14:42:31] <deep42thought> I have no idea how much it needs
[14:42:45] <deep42thought> currently it uses 70-80% before being killed
[14:43:12] <deep42thought> swapfile is a good idea, will try this first
[14:44:36] <rewbycraft> If it's not a constant usage, just use a swapfile
[14:44:44] <rewbycraft> To catch it when you're running that one command
[14:45:06] <deep42thought> usually it's run in the background, but I believe it's not dramatic if it fails ...
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[15:23:50] <deep42thought> hmm, this git command runs like forever :-/
[15:24:19] <fsckd> git really loves RAM :(
[15:24:31] <deep42thought> now it has 1G additional swap
[15:24:37] <jelle> you wanted performance ;-)
[15:25:02] <deep42thought> I wonder if 'git gc' is needed on a bare repository, too
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[15:29:49] <jelle> git gc is never required :)
[15:30:27] <deep42thought> yeah, but if the automatic invocations fail due to low ram, you need to run it sometimes with activated swap
[15:34:30] <rewbycraft> I hope you understand that when we don't need more ram 95% of the time, I'm kinda reluctant to increase ram
[15:34:40] <rewbycraft> If it hits swap often, then yea I'll increase it
[15:34:42] <deep42thought> rewbycraft: totally
[15:35:08] <rewbycraft> I've got a few vms like that
[15:35:16] <rewbycraft> They use maybe 200M ram on average
[15:35:28] <rewbycraft> And every few days a cleanup script needs like 500M extra to run
[15:35:41] <rewbycraft> I just let that go into swap because not worth allocating the ram all the time
[15:35:58] <deep42thought> Maybe you can supply a 1G partition for swap?
[15:36:28] <deep42thought> or should I stick with the file I'm using currently?
[15:38:13] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Does it not have enough disk for a swapfile?
[15:38:31] <deep42thought> currently it's enough
[15:38:48] <deep42thought> I'll just keep it as it is
[15:38:58] <tyzoid> deep42thought: mkswap /swapfile $((1024*1024)) would make a 1g swapfile
[15:39:43] <deep42thought> I used dd and mkswap to create one
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[15:39:47] <tyzoid> deep42thought: If you ever need more swap, you can just add another swapfile/reallocate the current swapfile
[15:40:03] <deep42thought> right
[15:40:03] <tyzoid> deep42thought: no need to bother rewby each time :P
[15:40:09] <deep42thought> :-)
[15:46:37] <rewbycraft> I can add a swap disk if you want
[15:46:50] <rewbycraft> That's no big deal
[15:46:53] <deep42thought> this would make the setup (slightly) more clean
[15:46:56] <deep42thought> :-)
[15:51:20] <rewbycraft> How's 4G swap?
[15:51:31] <deep42thought> sounds plenty
[15:51:48] <deep42thought> I think 2G would be enough, too
[15:53:01] <rewbycraft> Should appear as /dev/vdb in a few seconds
[15:54:23] <rewbycraft> Hm
[15:54:24] <rewbycraft> Actually
[15:54:33] <rewbycraft> deep42thought: I may have to power off the vm for a sec to attach the disk
[15:54:41] <deep42thought> ah, please don't
[15:54:43] <rewbycraft> Looks like it's not liking hotplugging sata
[15:54:49] <deep42thought> the git job is still running :-/
[15:55:16] <deep42thought> should I simply reboot, when it's done?
[15:55:36] <rewbycraft> Let me know when it's done
[15:55:40] <rewbycraft> I need it powered off
[15:55:42] <rewbycraft> And then I can attach it
[15:55:46] <deep42thought> ok
[15:55:47] <rewbycraft> Otherwise it'll try a hotplug
[15:56:00] <rewbycraft> And... well... take a look at dmesg
[15:58:18] <deep42thought> it's down
[16:06:16] <rewbycraft> deep42thought: Attached, booted and configured
[16:06:18] <rewbycraft> Enjoy the swap
[16:06:21] <deep42thought> thanks!
[16:06:23] <deep42thought> :-)
[16:07:20] <deep42thought> you deleted the old swap file already?
[16:07:30] <deep42thought> looks so :-)
[16:07:35] <rewbycraft> Yup
[16:08:08] <rewbycraft> Figured it wouldn't be needed anymore
[16:08:18] <deep42thought> yeah, I was just wondering :-)
[16:08:26] <rewbycraft> So just mkswapped /dev/vdb, and replacing the path in /etc/fstab
[16:08:30] <rewbycraft> Then gave the box another reboot
[16:08:38] <rewbycraft> To see if swap came up properly
[16:09:52] <deep42thought> ok, thanks - I just didn't expect so much house keeping ;-)
[16:12:37] <tyzoid> :p
[16:13:10] <rewbycraft> Is fine
[16:13:13] <rewbycraft> I don't do half jobs
[16:13:34] <rewbycraft> Or rather, I try to avoid doing half job
[16:13:38] <deep42thought> :-D
[16:14:06] <rewbycraft> Talking about that, gotta fix a router I've been asked to support and write some more code for my actual job
[16:14:16] <rewbycraft> Always fun stuff to do!
[16:14:20] <deep42thought> have fun!
[16:14:28] <deep42thought> Thanks for your help!
[16:14:32] <tyzoid> thanks, have fun!
[16:14:41] <rewbycraft> "Fun" "enterprise java"
[16:14:50] <tyzoid> lol
[16:15:00] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: I assume you've seen Enterprise FizzBuzz?
[16:15:03] <rewbycraft> I have
[16:15:16] <rewbycraft> That said, I wrote these daemons myself
[16:15:26] <rewbycraft> spring.io is quite nice if you don't go too "enterprise"
[16:15:38] <rewbycraft> And use the componentscanner feature
[16:15:47] <rewbycraft> (Because the xml config can go die in a hole)
[16:16:05] <rewbycraft> So it's not too bad
[16:16:11] <rewbycraft> But the thing this talks to... eeehhhh
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[17:39:40] <tyzoid> deep42thought: welcome back
[17:40:24] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Based on the comments from the last ISO, I'd still like to keep networkmanager in, but not have it enabled by default.
[17:40:29] <tyzoid> Thoughts?
[17:41:54] <deep42thought> additional installed packages don't matter - as long as the size stays within certain limits - but we should definitely disable it :-)
[17:42:48] <deep42thought> btw: did you have a chance to have a look at openqa and os-autoinst?
[17:42:58] <deep42thought> (because I didn't)
[17:46:09] <rewbycraft> Oh btw, have there been any stability issues with buildmaster or my mirror?
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[17:53:22] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: I haven't noticed anything, but I haven't added monitoring in yet.
[17:53:52] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I'm going to focus on the backup solution/monitoring first, openQA next.
[17:54:07] <tyzoid> deep42thought: As much as I'd like to get it working, I don't have the energy or will to deal with it atm
[17:56:19] <deep42thought> rewbycraft: I've noticed nothing
[17:56:28] <deep42thought> tyzoid: That's fine with me :-)
[17:57:22] <tyzoid> deep42thought: So you said that the package signing keys via archlinux32-keyring was fixed?
[17:57:31] <deep42thought> yes, should be
[17:57:40] <tyzoid> deep42thought: It seems like the last iso I built, the package was installed, but the keys didn't insert.
[17:57:46] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Do you know what changed/what the issue was?
[17:57:48] <deep42thought> that's correct
[17:57:51] <deep42thought> yes
[17:58:03] <deep42thought> The official keyring is "installed" via a systemd-unit
[17:58:25] <deep42thought> I think it's, so that the secret key is different on every iso-boot (and therefor on every installation)
[17:58:41] <deep42thought> I just added our keyring into that unit file, too
[17:59:04] <tyzoid> okay, so it was a config issue in releng via archiso32 then, right?
[17:59:20] <deep42thought> yes
[17:59:23] <tyzoid> okay
[18:02:33] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Did you make an update to the archiso32 package?
[18:02:46] <deep42thought> let me check if I made a release
[18:03:02] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I'm not seeing it on the -dual releng image
[18:03:13] <tyzoid> deep42thought: so I manually edited the releng/airootfs file
[18:03:30] <tyzoid> deep42thought: but I wonder if there are implications for running archlinux32 import on the x86_64 system iso?
[18:04:15] <deep42thought> archiso32-32.1 schould have it
[18:04:55] <tyzoid> archiso-dual 32-1 didn't seem to
[18:04:59] <deep42thought> oh, I didn't make a package
[18:05:06] <deep42thought> one moment
[18:05:10] <deep42thought> 32.1-1
[18:05:41] <tyzoid> After this, I'll regenerate the vagrant images to make a clean environment again, since mine is getting a bit polluted.
[18:19:40] <deep42thought> ok, the packages should be done
[18:21:34] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Thans
[18:21:37] <tyzoid> thanks*
[18:41:50] <deep42thought> regarding archlinux32-import on dual-iso: It will "just" install our keyring, too
[18:42:03] <deep42thought> I don't know if that's an issue
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[18:46:03] <deep42thought> ah, no, I think it'll try to set our keyring up, but since x86_64 pacman does not depend on archlinux32-keyring, it won't be available at all
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[19:37:48] <tyzoid> hey brtln, the original announcement said that support would be pulled in November. Given that we're only a week from september, is there any more info on what exactly this rollout would look like?
[19:38:21] <brtln> no guys, it's up to you pretty much
[19:38:44] <tyzoid> brtln: I mean from the arch side, do the i686 repos just disappear? Do they just stop updating?
[19:38:47] <brtln> from my side I will release new devtools that skip i686
[19:39:21] <brtln> and after 3-6 months ditch files from master mirror
[19:39:30] <brtln> gtg, sorry
[19:39:35] <tyzoid> brtln: np, thanks
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[22:48:40] <archian> hello
[22:49:04] <deep42thought> hello archian
[22:49:29] <tyzoid> hi
[22:49:44] <tyzoid> archian: Do you have a question?
[22:50:00] <archian> I just came here to say THANKS YOU for supporting 32-bit systems
[22:50:08] <tyzoid> :)
[22:50:24] <archian> my old notebook loves you :D
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[22:54:01] <rewbycraft> Heh
[22:55:13] <brtln> tyzoid: so, as I also said previously, I can also push the date by some time if that helps
[22:55:31] <deep42thought> we'll get back to you ;-)
[22:56:42] <brtln> no worries
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[23:39:17] <tyzoid> brtln: Sorry, I was away for a little bit. Thanks.
[23:40:00] <tyzoid> brtln: Our plan was to get our keyring signed by valid arch signing key sometime before the transition would need to take place.
[23:40:28] <tyzoid> Is this still something that we can count on? Or should we rely on some other method for the transition.
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