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[08:48:56] <buildmaster> nvidia-lts is broken (says buildknecht3).
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[11:54:29] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann
[11:54:35] <abaumann> hi
[11:55:13] <abaumann> what's cookin' doc?
[11:55:21] <deep42thought> huh?
[11:55:42] <abaumann> any problems?
[11:55:59] <deep42thought> ah, mhh, no, not really
[11:56:03] <deep42thought> just a lot todos
[11:56:05] <deep42thought> :-)
[11:56:15] <abaumann> ah :-)
[11:56:30] <deep42thought> we're currently at #35 ^^
[11:56:33] <deep42thought> https://buildmaster.archlinux32.org
[11:56:34] <phrik> Title: Todos in the build scripts (at buildmaster.archlinux32.org)
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[12:11:46] <deep42thought> plus: I wonder how we managed to have a wrongly linked man-db
[12:14:26] <abaumann> yeah. that's an interesting puzzle.
[12:23:26] <deep42thought> maybe, man-db is part of a loop, because it is in base
[12:24:03] <abaumann> that's a good reason.
[12:43:52] <abaumann> In the linux kernel PKGBUILD there is now a cat ../config > .config, I think our eval doesn't do anything with it?
[12:49:41] <deep42thought> that's the reason why I wanted to change the name from config-i686 to config
[12:49:55] <abaumann> ah. yeah, I see now (really).
[12:49:56] <abaumann> :-)
[12:49:57] <deep42thought> linux-lts had the same change
[12:50:09] <abaumann> because I just has the same issue when patching with config.i486
[12:50:14] <deep42thought> and I guess, linux-zen will follow soon :-)
[12:50:20] <abaumann> it's too brittle if things change upstream..
[12:50:22] <deep42thought> ah :-)
[12:50:56] <deep42thought> well, we could always say "cp $srcdir/config-i686 $srcdir/config" at line 3 of prepare()
[12:50:57] <abaumann> +1 vote from me
[12:51:23] <deep42thought> or more generally speaking "cp $srcdir/config-$CARCH $srcdir/config"
[12:51:39] <abaumann> yes. I'm in favour of thta.
[12:51:41] <abaumann> *that
[12:52:09] <deep42thought> will be $CARCH = i486 on i486?
[12:52:25] <abaumann> yes
[12:57:51] <deep42thought> hmm, this is a fundamental question: Do we want to have separate git repositories for i486,i686 and pentium4?
[12:58:06] <deep42thought> or do we have one git repository with different switches on $CARCH?
[12:58:23] <deep42thought> because in the first case, we could just replace config differently in each repository
[12:59:00] <abaumann> I don't expect so many switches.
[12:59:16] <abaumann> And stage1 is separate anyway.. there are most patches..
[12:59:23] <deep42thought> ok
[12:59:31] <abaumann> building the final patches should patch as little as possible.
[12:59:39] <deep42thought> so we don't need a separate repo for i486, then?
[12:59:51] <abaumann> no, I don't think so.
[12:59:54] <deep42thought> ok
[12:59:59] <abaumann> For the binaries, yes.
[13:00:09] <abaumann> packages. But not for the package descriptions..
[13:00:16] <deep42thought> then it really makes sense to have config.i686 (and later config.i486, config.pentium4)
[13:00:28] <deep42thought> yeah, packages: sure
[13:00:33] <deep42thought> I was talking about PKGBUILDs
[13:00:53] <abaumann> yeah me too, but it could be read in the wrong way. :-)
[13:00:59] <deep42thought> :-)
[13:01:27] <abaumann> Console input/output is redirected. Run 'make oldconfig' to update configuration.
[13:01:30] <abaumann> make[2]: *** [scripts/kconfig/Makefile:40: silentoldconfig] Error 1
[13:01:32] <abaumann> make[1]: *** [Makefile:504: silentoldconfig] Error 2
[13:01:34] <abaumann> I have no luck to build the kernel.
[13:01:36] <abaumann> make: *** No rule to make target 'include/config/auto.conf', needed by 'include/config/kernel.release'. Stop.
[13:01:50] <abaumann> my i486 kernel, that is.
[13:02:07] <abaumann> somehow .config is not in the right format when calling 'make oldconfig'
[13:02:52] <abaumann> maybe my config is just stale..
[13:03:20] <deep42thought> I'll look into this
[13:03:24] <abaumann> nono.
[13:03:26] <deep42thought> have seen this before with linux-lts
[13:03:31] <abaumann> the config.i686 is ok
[13:03:38] <deep42thought> just build inside a arch32-vm with makepkg
[13:03:48] <abaumann> I think, it's new features the make oldconfig really needs an answer, otherwise
[13:03:52] <abaumann> it gets interactive.
[13:03:56] <deep42thought> yes
[13:04:01] <abaumann> bingo.
[13:04:04] <abaumann> now it builds. :-)
[13:04:08] <deep42thought> there are some new features which seem not to have changed upstream
[13:04:11] <deep42thought> ah, ok :-)
[13:04:22] <abaumann> yeah. branch-prediciton. :->
[13:04:26] <abaumann> on/off
[14:05:59] <deep42thought> hmm, since a few days my archlinux32 box crashes really often (after 30..60 min) - I hope (for archlinux32), that this is not a software issue :-/
[14:06:22] <deep42thought> it just hangs: no error on the screen, no error in the logs
[14:08:27] <deep42thought> I s there any way to find out, what's going on - if there is no obvious error?
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[16:48:41] <abaumann> deep42thought: I would stress the machine and see if it happens faster. Temperature? This sounds like hardware to me..
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[18:48:42] <deep42thought> abaumann: it crashes faster if I listen to metal instead of classic :-)
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[19:30:51] <abaumann> deep42thought: ah, obiously. ;-)
[19:31:05] <abaumann> *obviously
[19:37:14] <deep42thought> no, seriously - usual cpu/network load seems to have no effect, todays Bach cantata lasted several times (I'd say >3h), but Knorkator crashed right at the second song ...
[19:38:57] <abaumann> I would try a cpuburn..
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[19:41:12] <deep42thought> a what?
[19:41:27] <abaumann> no worries: it doesn't acutally burn your cpu :-)
[19:41:32] <deep42thought> "sha512sum < /dev/random" or what?
[19:41:40] <abaumann> https://patrickmn.com
[19:41:41] <phrik> Title: cpuburn (at patrickmn.com)
[19:42:12] <abaumann> if it shuts down under high cpu load, then it's most likely a thermal protection..
[19:42:55] <deep42thought> thanks
[19:42:59] <deep42thought> I'll give it a shot
[19:43:17] <abaumann> can you monitor the temperature of your motherboard, cpu?
[19:43:23] <abaumann> lm_sensors or so?
[19:44:43] <deep42thought> let me find the correct package
[19:45:12] <abaumann> the problem is, most non-server machines don't provide nice sensor measurement..
[19:45:33] <abaumann> lm_sensors, configure, then sensors
[19:45:33] <abaumann> coretemp-isa-0000
[19:45:33] <abaumann> Adapter: ISA adapter
[19:45:33] <abaumann> Core 0: +78.0 C (high = +78.0 C, crit = +100.0 C)
[19:45:33] <abaumann> Core 1: +75.0 C (high = +78.0 C, crit = +100.0 C)
[19:46:12] <deep42thought> yes
[19:46:17] <abaumann> my AMD K6 played similar tricks with me. It just switched off, reseating it helped.
[19:46:20] <deep42thought> got two temperatures there
[19:46:22] <abaumann> new CPU paste.
[19:46:34] <abaumann> ah. now see what happens when you call cpuburn on the machine.
[19:46:41] <abaumann> do they go up fast?
[19:47:11] <deep42thought> umm, cpuburn comes with many binaries
[19:47:27] <abaumann> pick one. shouldn't matter too much.
[19:47:44] <abaumann> my stress test is usually a make -j <N> on a big package like the linux kernel.. :-)
[19:47:54] <abaumann> good bad hardware detector..
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[19:48:07] <deep42thought> no, temp stays at 42°C / 33°C
[19:48:26] <deep42thought> in fact it's so stable I thought the machine crashed
[19:48:32] <deep42thought> but it's still running, actually :-)
[19:49:34] <deep42thought> now I have 44°C/35°C
[19:49:37] <deep42thought> seems ok to me
[19:49:40] <abaumann> very ok.
[19:49:57] <deep42thought> My next trial would be a different power supply
[19:50:39] <abaumann> Archlinux32 itself is very unlikely, all my machines run without a glitch..
[19:50:49] <abaumann> power supply is easy to switch, yes.
[19:51:55] <deep42thought> especially since I had issues with the last one due to all the lights (which are on a different power supply now)
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