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[01:59:15] <Alina-malina> Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. how to solve this thing
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[10:02:32] <xananax> Hello, I'm trying to build a portable Arch install on a USB key. I've made it x64 only, then realized that one of the PCs I need to use it on has a 32-bit architecture. Found the Arch 32 project (congrats btw, it's really needed), but I'm reluctant to re-do the whole install from scratch with a dual boot iso
[10:02:49] <xananax> Is there any way I can convert a current installed Arch to a multiple architecture one?
[10:03:27] <xananax> On the website, it is advised to just add the mirrors, but I tried, it didn't work, my guess is that this instruction is for installations that are *already* i-386 and want to keep updating
[10:03:57] <xananax> Whereas I have a working x86 install that needs to become dual-bootable
[10:05:59] <xananax> Uh, I meant a working x64
[10:10:18] <xananax> Or am I misunderstanding this and "dual boot" just means two completely independent Linux installs that you choose from when booting? (sorry, I'm not very well versed in how all those things tie together)
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[11:37:29] <sich> Hello everyone
[11:40:45] <sich> I just installed tor and checked it on the tor project. it works. But the downloads stopped working with curl and aria2
[11:41:03] <sich> could you helpme
[11:41:07] <sich> ?
[11:41:53] <sich> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 500 Internal Serve
[11:45:30] <sich> anybody here?
[11:46:33] <sich> could you help me to find an error
[11:46:35] <sich> ?
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[12:06:06] <deep42thought> sich: well, a 500 is some server issue
[12:08:35] <sich> that is, it's not me
[12:08:37] <sich> ,
[12:08:38] <sich> ?
[12:08:41] <deep42thought> right
[12:08:43] <deep42thought> it's not you
[12:08:49] <deep42thought> it's not your connection to the server
[12:08:55] <deep42thought> it's not the webserver on the server
[12:09:00] <deep42thought> it's some backend on the server
[12:09:08] <sich> hmmm
[12:09:35] <sich> but i can't install package arai2fe
[12:09:41] <sich> too
[12:09:57] <sich> or something else
[12:10:06] <deep42thought> there is no arai2fe
[12:10:13] <deep42thought> where do you want to install that from?
[12:11:21] <deep42thought> do you use yaourt?
[12:11:22] <sich> The first time I encountered this problem, when I tried to download files by torrent link using aria2
[12:11:26] <sich> yes
[12:11:31] <deep42thought> :-/
[12:11:37] <deep42thought> yaourt is not actually supported
[12:11:48] <deep42thought> they (=archlinuxfr) dropped support for i686
[12:11:58] <deep42thought> and _we_ didn't pick that up
[12:12:13] <deep42thought> you're supposed to install aur packages "manually"
[12:12:37] <deep42thought> https://wiki.archlinux.org
[12:12:38] <phrik> Title: Arch User Repository - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
[12:13:23] <deep42thought> or: at least, be on the watch, when using unsupported package managers :-)
[12:13:32] <deep42thought> it's probably an issue within yaourt
[12:13:35] <deep42thought> (recompile it!)
[12:15:29] <sich> I have long tried to configure the tor, I had a problem with the time setting. The tor has worked, but the download of files through curl or aria2 has ceased to work. Maybe while I set up the tor did something wrong with the ports or somewhere there. How to diagnose?
[12:16:46] <deep42thought> can you reach "the internet" through tor?
[12:16:56] <sich> yeah
[12:17:26] <deep42thought> and "curl 'https://www.google.com'" does not work?
[12:17:28] <phrik> Title: Google (at www.google.com)
[12:18:06] <sich> curl 'https://www.google.com'
[12:18:06] <sich> <HTML><HEAD><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">
[12:18:06] <phrik> Title: Google (at www.google.com)
[12:18:09] <sich> <TITLE>302 Moved</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>
[12:18:11] <sich> <H1>302 Moved</H1>
[12:18:14] <sich> The document has moved
[12:18:16] <sich> <A HREF="https://www.google.ru/?gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=V5uSWsazD4OWNLiGh8AO">here</A>.
[12:18:17] <phrik> Title: Google (at www.google.ru)
[12:18:18] <deep42thought> yes, you reach it
[12:18:19] <sich> </BODY></HTML>
[12:18:42] <deep42thought> so it's not a problem of curl, but of your targets you want to reach
[12:19:20] <sich> maybe not curl, but wget
[12:19:36] <sich> i don't know what using in yaourt
[12:19:38] <sich> =)
[12:20:17] <deep42thought> just don't use yaourt - use pacman and download the packages from the aur manually
[12:20:46] <sich> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 500 Internal Server Error
[12:20:47] <sich> ==> ОШИБКА: Ошибка при загрузке 'http://downloads.sourceforge.net/aria2fe/aria2fe-0.0.5.tar.bz2'
[12:20:49] <sich> Прерывание...
[12:20:52] <sich> ==> ОШИБКА: Makepkg не смог собрать aria2fe.
[12:21:04] <deep42thought> yes
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[12:21:09] <deep42thought> I get that, too
[12:21:12] <sich> that's what happen when 'yaourt -S aria2fe
[12:21:25] <deep42thought> seems, like sourceforge has some issue
[12:21:25] <sich> pacman -S aria2fe
[12:21:28] <sich> sorry
[12:22:59] <deep42thought> that is an issue of that particular package
[12:23:10] <sich> Generally, I thought that setting the Aria2fe will help me with the problem of downloading files using Aria2
[12:23:28] <deep42thought> um, I have no idea of that
[12:23:41] <deep42thought> I always used curl and wget and got pretty far with that ;-)
[12:24:31] <sich> can wget download by p2p
[12:24:52] <deep42thought> I doubt it
[12:25:16] <deep42thought> ah, for such things I used rtorrent
[12:25:35] <deep42thought> but anyway: I think, aria2 should work without aria2fe
[12:26:18] <sich> i think so too
[12:29:19] <sich> rtorrent don't download too
[12:29:39] <sich> couldn't connect to server
[12:30:01] <sich> couldn't resolve the host name
[12:45:21] <sich> anyway, thanks
[12:47:38] <sich> I thought this is a feature of the provider, but in windows it works
[12:48:50] <deep42thought> have you tried downloading that file with you browser?
[12:53:50] <sich> i download file.torrent and add it into rtorrent
[12:54:06] <sich> download by firefo
[12:54:09] <sich> x
[13:03:11] <deep42thought> ah, right - I thought, you were still fighting with sourceforge ...
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[13:24:28] <sich> I do not quite understand what you mean (about sourceforge)
[13:25:41] <deep42thought> sich: you had problems downloading a file from source forge before, and I thought that was still the current issue, but you're now fighting with a torrent
[13:26:40] <sich> o, i've got that
[13:27:55] <sich> how can i will know what downloader use yaourt?
[13:28:09] <deep42thought> I have no idea
[13:28:17] <deep42thought> but I bet, it can be configured somewhere
[13:30:02] <sich> sorry, i forgot google, where talk to someone
[13:35:47] <sich> fbv
[13:37:20] <deep42thought> ?
[13:37:33] <sich> I was wrong. yogurt works. Only p2p connection does not work
[13:37:55] <deep42thought> yogurt :-D
[13:38:36] <sich> not rtorrent, not aria2 do not work
[13:38:57] <deep42thought> yaourt can download sources via torrent?
[13:39:06] <sich> нооо
[13:39:08] <sich> nooo
[13:39:17] <deep42thought> np, I can read cyrillic letters
[13:39:35] <sich> but i think after setup tor i can do some bad for my net settings
[13:40:02] <deep42thought> well, you need to decide what traffic should go through tor and what should not
[13:40:05] <sich> i was wrong
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[13:40:51] <sich> thanks for all
[13:41:02] <deep42thought> yeah, no problem
[13:41:28] * sich went to google for the answer
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[13:45:23] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann
[13:45:26] <abaumann> hi.
[13:45:40] <abaumann> I'm curious: I'm still using yaourt and it works.
[13:45:51] <abaumann> Had to compile once pacman-query because of some library mismatch..
[13:47:25] <deep42thought> yes, actually there should be no reason for disfunction - except breaking of linking
[13:48:08] <abaumann> sourceforge changed all their sites lately.. so maybe there was something down temporarily..
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[14:08:51] <deep42thought> but anyway: I think we should not start officially supporting yaourt :-)
[14:16:21] <abaumann> agreed.
[14:17:20] <abaumann> the question of xananax actually brings up a question: why do we build a dual ISO with 64-bit anyway?
[14:17:57] <deep42thought> because _I_ have use for it :-)
[14:18:44] <deep42thought> as soon as there is a considerable effort to keep this alive, I will drop the scripts
[14:32:18] <abaumann> ah. that's a good reason. :-)
[14:32:30] <abaumann> and the releng script produces a dual for free.. ok.
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[14:43:34] <Soni> what's dual-bootable?
[14:44:00] <deep42thought> an iso which boots archlinux on x86_64 and archlinux32 on i686
[14:45:01] <Soni> huh
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[15:12:19] <sich> I determined something: torrents from a certain server do not want to download
[15:12:57] <deep42thought> by "server" you mean "tracker"?
[15:13:56] <abaumann> # Obtain next free server number for xvfb-run; this even works in a chroot environment.
[15:13:59] <abaumann> export servernum=99
[15:14:02] <abaumann> while ! xvfb-run -a -n "$servernum" /bin/true 2>/dev/null; do servernum=$((servernum+1)); done
[15:14:18] <abaumann> oje. I knew python will be a beast to bootstrap, but a headless X server for building a software? seriosly?
[15:14:35] <deep42thought> I usually only saw this in test suites
[15:14:51] <abaumann> have a look at python build() :->
[15:15:21] <abaumann> the problem is: in many places a small python script generates some code. and it appears in the makedepends (implicitely)
[15:15:41] <deep42thought> I've noticed this before :-=
[15:15:42] <deep42thought> :-)
[15:15:55] <abaumann> yes. works in almost all chroots. ;-)
[15:16:00] <deep42thought> I once got all packages blacklisted through python-setuptools
[15:16:50] <abaumann> some packages in Archlinux suffer from 'featureitis'.
[15:17:20] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[15:17:20] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[15:17:57] <deep42thought> there should be a $pkgname-slim for each of those packages ;-)
[15:18:22] <abaumann> yes. but I'm afraid Python doesn't play along..
[15:18:30] <abaumann> ..otherwise it would already have been split..
[15:18:48] <sich> yes, trackers
[15:18:50] <abaumann> can I build python without an X server will be the question of the day. :-)
[15:19:06] <guys> abaumann: wait, some build tool generates random makedepends on xorg-server-xvfb?
[15:19:11] <deep42thought> can't you connect to an external x server
[15:19:12] <deep42thought> ?
[15:19:16] <deep42thought> via network or something?
[15:19:46] <abaumann> guys: xvfb-run in build of python PKGBUILD
[15:19:51] <guys> oh...
[15:19:55] <deep42thought> sich: maybe, tor is explicitely blacklisted on those trackers, then?
[15:19:58] <guys> well, some software is weird
[15:20:02] <abaumann> :->
[15:20:18] <abaumann> I wonder what happens, if I try to build without.. :-)
[15:20:29] <deep42thought> less features ;-)
[15:20:58] <guys> https://git.archlinux.org
[15:20:59] <phrik> Title: svntogit/packages.git - Git clone of the 'packages' repository (at git.archlinux.org)
[15:21:52] <guys> AFAIK it was always needed for the testsuite
[15:21:56] <abaumann> yeah. but this is for a test.
[15:22:00] <abaumann> exactly.
[15:22:12] <abaumann> so maybe it's just a type which slipped into build()?
[15:22:15] <guys> firefox is pretty fun too
[15:22:30] <abaumann> yeah. but nobody uses firefox as a build tool (or not yet)
[15:22:38] <deep42thought> lol
[15:23:13] <abaumann> I'll take out the first launch of xvfb in build, suits my needs.. thanks.
[15:23:46] <abaumann> Oh. My target build machine hangs and waits for an Xserver to appear. :-)
[15:24:06] <deep42thought> the biggest concentration of PKGBUILD sins: use firefox in build() to download the actual binary blob, which will then be packaged :-)
[15:24:27] <sich> when i start rtorrent with proxy by tor rtorrent don't message "couldn't resolve host name"
[15:24:46] <sich> just [Could not parse bencoded data]
[15:24:53] <abaumann> the same goes for git+https (in a slitly less drastic way): git is not even part of base-devel.
[15:25:01] <abaumann> bootstrapping git is also all not that fun.
[15:25:34] <abaumann> you can clearly see, which packages play along well and which ones not if you check the number of diffs in every stage while bootstrapping.
[15:26:30] <deep42thought> sich: I have no idea
[15:26:31] <abaumann> I forgot to ask guys: is starting an X server in build worth a bug report? *abaumann is very afraid of the reaction he gets* :-)
[15:27:14] <abaumann> Do TOR networks have a DNS?
[15:27:26] <abaumann> why bother to use tor anyway..
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[15:32:13] <deep42thought> abaumann: IIRC, tor has some dns implemented (normal dns won't pass)
[15:32:58] <Soni> how do you build gcc?
[15:33:39] <Soni> (in "things that can't be bootstrapped" - gcc requires gcc)
[15:41:08] <abaumann> What do you mean by build gcc? For the same architecture? A newer version? Or do you want to build a cross-compiler?
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[15:50:01] <tyzoid> deep42thought: is your merged mirror hardcoded in archiso-dual?
[15:50:42] <deep42thought> let me check
[15:51:00] <deep42thought> no, actually nothing is hardcoded
[15:51:15] <deep42thought> it simply uses /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist32
[15:51:39] <tyzoid> hmm. Because when I boot up the vm, I see my /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist with the merged mirror at the top
[15:51:54] <tyzoid> and I can't seem to figure out what script actually sets it there
[15:52:15] <deep42thought> umm, wait
[15:52:53] <deep42thought> you mean https://arch.eckner.net right?
[15:53:20] <deep42thought> ah, right
[15:53:21] <tyzoid> yeah
[15:53:29] <deep42thought> you have [archlinuxewe] activated, right?
[15:53:32] <tyzoid> Yup
[15:53:40] <deep42thought> that has a different pacman-mirrorlist
[15:53:47] <deep42thought> with my mirror on top and uncommentde
[15:53:52] <deep42thought> *uncommented
[15:54:12] <deep42thought> because I always was too lazy to merge the mirrorlist.pacnew
[15:54:50] <deep42thought> just move archlinuxewe to the end of the repositories in pacman.conf and re-install pacman-mirrorlist
[15:54:56] <tyzoid> Ah, I see. So when I do a system update, it'll grab the one from archlinuxewe instead of the arch one
[15:54:57] <deep42thought> then you should get the official one
[15:55:04] <deep42thought> right
[15:55:12] <tyzoid> Yeah, it's no problem. Just wanted to see what was up.
[15:55:23] <deep42thought> sry for the confusion
[15:55:26] <tyzoid> I'm creating a merged mirror on my system here, so I'm hoping it'll be a bit faster
[15:55:33] <deep42thought> I did not follow the rule not to overwrite upstream packages
[15:55:37] <tyzoid> no problem, I just wasn't sure where it was pulling in from
[15:55:57] <deep42thought> the merged mirror is actually pretty simple
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[15:57:40] <deep42thought> https://ptpb.pw
[15:57:58] <deep42thought> just a bunch of symlinks
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[15:59:34] <tyzoid> yup
[16:00:01] <guys> abaumann: how shall I put this...
[16:00:30] <guys> Unnecessary steps are worth a bug report. If python actually uses an x server in the build, this is not really a bug...
[16:00:56] <guys> Though you can try discussing it with python upstream, as that doesn't seem particularly ideal :p
[16:03:01] <abaumann> I'll test first and complain later. :-)
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[16:09:36] <abaumann> it seems that python executes regression tests during build(). That's why the X server is started there. So you cannot build Python without it.. and not without testing it (which might be a good thing)
[16:09:46] <abaumann> : # FIXME: can't run for a cross build
[16:09:53] <abaumann> Like that one.. :-)
[16:10:08] <deep42thought> why don't they split the regression test in a test suite?
[16:10:49] <abaumann> so you could call 'make check' or 'make regression' and call it separately? because it would make life easier? ;-)
[16:11:18] <abaumann> perl needs a preinstalled target machine to execute its tests..
[16:11:51] <abaumann> ..unless you use a patchset. also not ideal.
[16:14:06] <deep42thought> well, as long as you can skip the tests: no problem
[16:14:50] <tyzoid> deep42thought: What do you do about the lastsync/lastupdate files?
[16:14:54] <tyzoid> btw, https://multiarch.arch32.tyzoid.com is up
[16:14:55] <phrik> Title: Index of / (at multiarch.arch32.tyzoid.com)
[16:15:04] <tyzoid> just i686/x86_64
[16:15:10] <deep42thought> you don't need them on the merged mirror
[16:15:28] <deep42thought> you only need them if you want to sync _from_ this merged mirror
[16:15:32] <deep42thought> (which you won't)
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[16:19:01] <guys> abaumann: funnily enough python already has a testsuite
[16:19:16] <guys> So the question is, why do they run parts of the testsuite duing make build -_-
[16:19:23] <guys> Sounds like an upstream bug report
[16:21:37] <abaumann> 0:03:35 load avg: 2.06 [ 24/406] test_asynchat
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[16:21:47] <abaumann> Not to mention that now this test hangs forever.
[16:22:16] <deep42thought> maybe, python is not supported on i486, at all ;-P
[16:22:59] <abaumann> The interpreter builds, otherwise it couldn't hang while executing the 24th test. ;-)
[16:23:21] <deep42thought> it's not a multi-stage build?
[16:23:24] <deep42thought> like with gcc?
[16:23:46] <abaumann> yeah. this could explain why you run the regression suite on the stage 1 interpreter or so..
[16:24:14] <abaumann> I really hope for the Python people they didn't write Python in Python itself. :-)
[16:24:30] <guys> abaumann: they did!
[16:24:41] <abaumann> aha. well.
[16:24:55] <guys> see for example how `import` is actually the contents of importlib, transpiled into C
[16:25:49] <abaumann> somewhere should be the CPython..
[16:32:21] <tyzoid> deep42thought: If this works, I won't keep hammering your server every iso build
[16:33:05] <deep42thought> ok
[16:33:19] <deep42thought> but I think, there's plenty of traffic besides you, anyway ;-)
[16:34:06] <tyzoid> Yup, but I'd like to move the iso build scripts onto the server that actually has the mirror
[16:34:15] <tyzoid> so that's another benefit
[16:37:00] <deep42thought> yeah, have totally nothing against placing a mirror next to download-heavy activity
[16:37:07] <deep42thought> (or vice versa)
[16:37:42] <deep42thought> *I have ...
[16:38:30] <tyzoid> Yeah, especially when I already had a mirror of both x86 and i686
[16:38:50] <deep42thought> yes
[16:39:14] <deep42thought> like Vollzornbrot's buildknechte - they're now using his mirror, too (on the same hardware)
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[16:41:38] <tyzoid> odd, I changed out the mirrorlist, but it looks like it's still hitting your server
[16:41:52] <deep42thought> mirrorlist32, too?
[16:42:06] <deep42thought> although, I think, I don't replace that one
[16:42:38] <tyzoid> It's a mess, but here's the script I'm working on: https://ptpb.pw
[16:43:30] <tyzoid> mirrorlist32 has Server = https://mirror.archlinux32.org but the pacman.conf in configs/releng points to mirrorlist
[16:43:39] <deep42thought> this adds my repository as first
[16:43:50] <tyzoid> yes, then I overwrite it after
[16:44:18] * tyzoid plans to clean this up once he gets it working
[16:44:38] <deep42thought> mirrorlist32 will get referenced by the build.sh from archiso-dual
[16:45:39] <deep42thought> https://github.com
[16:45:40] <phrik> Title: archiso32/build.sh at dual-boot · archlinux32/archiso32 · GitHub (at github.com)
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[16:47:08] <tyzoid> hmm, that's probably why
[16:47:24] <tyzoid> yeah, now that it's downloading x86 packages, it's hitting my mirror
[16:47:27] <deep42thought> you simply should put your merged mirror in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist32, too
[16:47:37] <tyzoid> will do
[16:47:43] <deep42thought> question: do we need a merged mirror at all?
[16:48:03] <tyzoid> Not anymore, now that the build tool grabs mirrorlist32 instead
[16:48:09] <deep42thought> it should download x86_64 packages from the one in mirrorlist and i686 packages from the one in mirrorlist32, anyway
[16:48:15] <deep42thought> right
[16:48:16] <deep42thought> ok
[16:48:21] <tyzoid> The merged mirror was from before the change to archiso
[16:48:30] <deep42thought> well, it serves me well
[16:48:40] <deep42thought> as I have a single mirrorlist on each of my arch boxes
[16:48:49] <deep42thought> (no matter if they're i686 or x86_64)
[16:48:56] <deep42thought> lazyness
[16:49:07] <tyzoid> yeah. Maybe it'd be interesting to generate an i686/x86_64/arm iso at some point
[16:49:09] * tyzoid ponders
[16:50:27] <deep42thought> keep in mind, that each additional architecture increases the size linearly
[16:51:28] <tyzoid> Yeah, I'm aware.
[16:51:36] <tyzoid> Most people burn 'em to flash drives anyway, though
[16:51:38] <tyzoid> esp. for arm
[16:52:14] <deep42thought> the question is also: do we want a i486 iso at some point?
[16:52:22] <deep42thought> or a -triple iso?
[16:52:25] <deep42thought> :-)
[16:52:46] <tyzoid> I'd probably make myself a -triple iso to test it out with
[16:53:28] <deep42thought> so, personally I'm not interested in a -triple one, but if it's little effort, I can set up a branch in archiso for it
[16:53:40] <deep42thought> ... we'd need another branch for i486 anyway
[16:54:09] <tyzoid> deep42thought: The script I sent is a custom recovery disk, so it autoboots to a gui in both i686 and x86_64 with utilities for doing recovery
[16:54:19] <tyzoid> I think it'd be useful to have i486/arm support on that
[16:55:21] <deep42thought> isn't the install media itself a recovery disk in that respect?
[16:55:34] * deep42thought doesn't know how to use a mouse
[16:55:37] <tyzoid> Yeah, but I'm thinking of this as more general purpose
[16:56:33] <tyzoid> Esp. for people who want a custom recovery environment, but don't necessarily want to use command line too much.
[16:56:50] <deep42thought> ok, fair enough
[16:57:03] <tyzoid> plus, it's useful as a defcon-disk, where you can boot to it and have a nice gui, but nothing ever changes on disk
[16:57:33] <deep42thought> you should start tyzoidix
[16:57:44] <tyzoid> lol
[16:58:02] <tyzoid> eventually I do want to make a web ui that you can check what software you want, and it'll go and build an iso for you
[16:58:33] <deep42thought> wouldn't that get overloaded pretty easily?
[16:58:33] <tyzoid> but that's farther out
[16:58:46] <tyzoid> Well, that's part of why I'm moving the scripts to the system running the mirrors
[16:59:02] <tyzoid> Plus, I'd have it put into a queue
[16:59:04] <deep42thought> hmm, but downloading is only one part of building the iso
[16:59:15] <deep42thought> ok
[16:59:22] <tyzoid> Yeah, the idea would be to put a request in a queue, then email out a link to the finished iso when done
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[16:59:44] <deep42thought> sounds nice
[16:59:50] <deep42thought> like with mkgmap
[17:00:04] <abaumann> or the PXE boot rom customizer. :-)
[17:00:55] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I'm actually on a system right now running a prototype early version of that iso
[17:01:17] * tyzoid has a laptop without a hard disk
[17:02:10] * deep42thought wonders if he has a laptop with a cd drive anywhere around
[17:03:15] * tyzoid 's laptop has a cd drive, but a busted one at that
[17:03:25] <deep42thought> :-D
[17:03:50] <tyzoid> yeah, computer is pretty beat up, esp. given the terrible build quality.
[17:04:02] <tyzoid> cd drive broke within a few months of purchase
[17:16:01] <tyzoid> abaumann: I think someone did port out firefox's javascript engine
[17:16:20] <tyzoid> responding to a comment you made yesterday, btw
[17:17:20] <abaumann> huh?
[17:17:44] <tyzoid> "yeah. but nobody uses firefox as a build tool (or not yet)"
[17:18:07] <abaumann> ah. but Javascript doesn't count. :-)
[17:25:12] <guys> Well, duh, that is nodejs
[17:25:35] <guys> which is legitimately something that is used as a build tool
[17:25:47] <guys> Note I did NOT say it is a legitimate build tool...
[17:26:10] <tyzoid> guys: nodejs is chrome's v8 engine
[17:26:18] <guys> I know...
[17:26:58] <guys> but that's not firefox and therefore does not invoke libxul
[17:27:43] <tyzoid> https://developer.mozilla.org
[17:27:44] <phrik> Title: Introduction to the JavaScript shell - Mozilla | MDN (at developer.mozilla.org)
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[17:30:28] <guys> This is used in polkit, gjs, cjs, plowshare, and others :D
[17:30:40] <guys> I maintain cjs :(
[17:31:07] <guys> Which will hopefully move to a more modern js release...
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[18:15:28] <tyzoid> hey deep42thought / abaumann: I've got some planned maintanince coming up on my server. Forums, bugtracker, and my mirror will be affected
[18:15:47] <tyzoid> That'll start in about 30 minutes, unless you'd rather I postpone it
[18:16:28] <deep42thought> no, it's fine for me
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[19:10:30] <tyzoid> deep42thought / abaumann everything should be online now
[19:12:41] <deep42thought> uptimerobot notified me, too ;-)
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[20:33:43] <buildmaster> chromium is broken (says buildknecht).
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