#archlinux32 | Logs for 2018-06-15

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[00:17:31] <buildmaster> qt5-webengine is broken (says nlopc46).
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[00:45:14] <jetfrog28> archlinux-ports
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[02:02:02] <buildmaster> pyqt5 is broken (says nlopc43).
[02:02:12] <buildmaster> qcad is broken (says eurobuild3).
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[07:45:44] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
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[08:56:22] <vboxler> hello, can i use archlinux32 with AUR?
[08:57:01] <vboxler> tyzoid: hello, can i use AUR with archlinux32?
[08:58:37] <vboxler> did we the package https://www.archlinux.org ?
[08:58:38] <phrik> Title:Arch Linux - reflector 2018-1 (any) (at www.archlinux.org)
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[09:04:59] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
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[09:08:27] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[09:08:34] <deep42thought> vboxler: yes, you can
[09:09:08] <abaumann> hi.
[09:09:11] <girls> hi!
[09:09:17] <abaumann> isn't reflector the one with mirrors in it?
[09:09:38] <girls> vboxler: reflector is blacklisted, because it's useless currently on archlinux32, because we don't provide a similar api to the mirrorlist as upstream does
[09:09:46] <girls> abaumann: yes, it is
[09:09:54] <abaumann> ah. it rang a bell :-)
[09:10:00] * deep42thought used the wrong tab ... again
[09:19:53] <vboxler> deep42thought: can i use the AUR Package from https://aur.archlinux.org ?
[09:19:54] <phrik> Title:AUR (en) - Home (at aur.archlinux.org)
[09:21:17] <deep42thought> vboxler: in principle: yes
[09:21:22] <vboxler> my archlinux32 works without AUR very stable, no problems, fine work from the team
[09:21:24] <deep42thought> but you may need to add "i686" as arch
[09:21:40] <deep42thought> and/or change some other things, which are i686 specific
[09:22:07] <deep42thought> but the second should rarely happen
[09:23:44] <vboxler> thank you for your help, cu
[09:23:50] <deep42thought> cu
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[10:53:24] <abaumann> hurray!
[10:53:29] <abaumann> I have an Xorg running again.
[10:53:33] <deep42thought> :-)
[10:53:50] <deep42thought> abaumann can fix everything
[10:54:06] <abaumann> yes, because he doesn't understand half the things he is fixing. :-)
[10:55:27] <abaumann> https://bugs.archlinux32.org
[10:55:29] <phrik> Title:FS#39 : xorg modesetting module fails with illegal instruction (at bugs.archlinux32.org)
[10:55:36] <abaumann> I'm changing quite some things there.
[10:56:45] <deep42thought> regarding the one-lining: it is the format given by "declare -f build", which is one line of options
[10:57:03] <abaumann> do I have to add commas at the end of each sed statement?
[10:57:13] <deep42thought> no
[10:57:17] <deep42thought> newline should be fine
[10:57:20] <abaumann> doing this project so long now and I still can't master 'sed'. :-)
[10:57:25] <deep42thought> my comment is about the content, you sed
[10:57:38] <deep42thought> which is one line of options
[10:57:56] <deep42thought> so "/gallium-drivers/s/,swr//g" is basically identical to "s/,swr//g"
[10:58:12] <deep42thought> same for the first expression
[10:58:21] <abaumann> aha. because meson-build has line continuation for all the options.
[10:58:27] <deep42thought> exactly
[10:58:38] <abaumann> ok. now I understand. :-)
[10:58:42] <deep42thought> or rather, it's one line in the PKGBUILD ("\" at lineend)
[10:59:33] <deep42thought> just do "(. PKGBUILD; declare -f build; )" with the unmodified PKGBUILD and you'll see
[11:01:38] <abaumann> yeah. it's one line.
[11:02:32] <abaumann> mmh: a /meson-build/s/xxx/yyy should also work
[11:02:50] <abaumann> aeh: arch-meson I meant.
[11:03:21] <abaumann> also the misterious X11 crashes disappeard, most likely something in X was hitting a AVX opcode while running.
[11:03:36] <abaumann> This only affect non-accelerated rendering, I reckon.
[11:03:59] <abaumann> As soon as you have a proper graphic card, you take that driver anyway.
[11:15:30] <abaumann> tyzoid: cgit shows now nice descriptions per repo. thanks :-)
[12:01:20] <abaumann> deep42thought: didn't you say something about gimp-problems? Just started gimp on 'staging'. works fine.
[12:02:04] <deep42thought> the one in stable is linked against stuff still being in testing
[12:02:08] <deep42thought> s/is/was/
[12:02:12] <abaumann> ah. ok.
[12:02:13] <deep42thought> nto sure if it still is
[12:04:01] <deep42thought> https://packages.archlinux32.org
[12:04:02] <deep42thought> \o/
[12:04:51] <abaumann> mmh? you have a json package? congrats ;-)
[12:05:08] <deep42thought> that's the status of our mirrors :-)
[12:05:14] <abaumann> ah!.
[12:05:18] <abaumann> that's nice.
[12:05:25] <abaumann> reflector32 can come. :-)
[12:05:34] <deep42thought> exactly
[12:07:23] <abaumann> ah: gimp has libgegl.0.4.so.0 missing.
[12:07:42] <abaumann> buildmaster: wtf libgegl-0.4.so.0:
[12:07:44] <abaumann> buildmaster: wtf libgegl-0.4.so.0
[12:07:46] <buildmaster> Huh, I don't know that one.
[12:08:03] <abaumann> buildmaster: wtf libgegl-0.4.so
[12:08:10] <buildmaster> [testing] gegl (0.4.2+14+g190a81b4a-1.0): /usr/lib/libgegl-0.4.so
[12:08:11] <deep42thought> race condition
[12:08:28] <deep42thought> it evaluates your first question and after completion deletes all questions ...
[12:08:38] * deep42thought should probably fix this
[12:08:47] <abaumann> ah. I see. anyways. lunch. so. I fixed mesa (I hope), we'll see.
[12:09:11] <deep42thought> lunch lunch lunch :-)
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[13:04:58] <buildmaster> mesa is broken (says buildknecht3).
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[13:36:01] <vboxler> Hello
[13:36:03] <vboxler> https://aur.archlinux.org
[13:36:03] <phrik> Title:AUR (en) - trizen-git (at aur.archlinux.org)
[13:36:24] <deep42thought> Hello vboxler
[13:36:50] <vboxler> why we didn't have trzen-git in our package?
[13:37:02] <deep42thought> because it's an aur package
[13:37:09] <deep42thought> upstream does not build them, so we don't
[13:37:10] <vboxler> which aur should i use?
[13:37:22] <deep42thought> we do not have a separate aur
[13:37:31] <deep42thought> just use the aur from archlinux
[13:38:44] <vboxler> i how can get the updates for my AUR? Last time i have use yaourt
[13:39:33] <deep42thought> https://wiki.archlinux.org
[13:39:33] <phrik> Title:Arch User Repository - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
[13:39:48] <deep42thought> e.g. the "manual" way :-)
[13:41:09] <vboxler> thank, i will read more and then try again, cu
[13:41:15] <deep42thought> cu
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[14:22:48] <elibrokeit> aside: I seriously recommend avoiding trizen at all costs
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[15:41:42] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[15:43:20] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann, looks, like you broke mesa :-D
[15:45:53] <abaumann> yes.
[15:46:09] <abaumann> my sed-fu was catastrophic.. it worked by accident before.
[15:46:19] <deep42thought> i like to say: "nur, wer nichts macht, macht auch nichts verkehrt"
[15:46:32] <abaumann> :-)
[15:54:37] <abaumann> aha. I cannot have both gallium and dri software rasterers..
[15:54:40] <abaumann> ..ok then.
[15:57:12] <deep42thought> hmm, the graph of all to-be-built packages still times out, here is a version with 150 packages only: https://packages.archlinux32.org
[15:59:58] <tyzoid> https://accounts.archlinux32.org now has some info on it
[16:00:10] <tyzoid> (it's just a field dump right now)
[16:00:54] <deep42thought> tyzoid: what services do you intend to conntect to this?
[16:00:59] <deep42thought> the bugtracker and the forum?
[16:01:35] <tyzoid> bugtracker, forum, git, and potentially email, but email is a ways away.
[16:02:23] <tyzoid> but it's not going to be like a 'sign up here, and get access to everything'
[16:02:27] <tyzoid> an admin needs to grant access to things.
[16:02:56] <tyzoid> but it'll be easier not having to sign in to three different accounts
[16:03:10] <deep42thought> yeah
[16:08:44] <deep42thought> tyzoid: we could expose some functionality of the buildmaster via https/php and might need a login for that via accounts.archlinux32.org - what do you think?
[16:11:18] <tyzoid> deep42thought: https://accounts.archlinux32.org
[16:11:45] <tyzoid> If you notice, there's now a domain-wide cookie called 'archlinux32_auth_token'
[16:12:12] <tyzoid> If you send the value of that cookie across, it'll return data about the user holding the token
[16:12:20] <tyzoid> or 'Guest' if the token is invalid
[16:13:35] <buildmaster> emacs-php-mode is broken (says rechenknecht).
[16:14:26] <deep42thought> I'm not sure, I fully understan, what I need to do in order to verify a user. Maybe, the easiest way (for me :-D) would be if you implemented it somewhere and/or worte a short example snippet (in php :-D)
[16:15:59] <deep42thought> keep in mind, that we do have untrusted servers under archlinux32 domain, namely all the mirrors in pool.mirror.archlinux32.org
[16:16:36] <tyzoid> yeah, but that's only going to be people browsing those mirrors through the browser
[16:16:45] <tyzoid> which imo the pool shouldn't have people doing that
[16:17:02] <deep42thought> one could add a bogus link in the bugtracker/forum to hijack the session
[16:17:31] <deep42thought> is there a way to exclude some subdomains?
[16:17:54] <tyzoid> nope
[16:21:37] <tyzoid> I'd personally prefer having a separate domain for the mirrors anyway
[16:21:45] <tyzoid> I never really liked them under archlinux32
[16:21:47] <deep42thought> separate tld?
[16:21:51] <deep42thought> hmm
[16:21:52] <tyzoid> yeah
[16:21:55] <tyzoid> like arch32mirrors.net
[16:23:14] <tyzoid> deep42thought: https://ptpb.pw
[16:23:51] <deep42thought> thanks!
[16:23:54] <tyzoid> you can remove the 'blah', that was just to avoid warnings about $_COOKIE
[16:23:57] <tyzoid> not being set
[16:24:09] <deep42thought> I like avoiding such warnings
[16:26:30] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Also, user id 1 is always guest
[16:26:38] <tyzoid> and the username is also set at 'Guest'
[16:26:45] <tyzoid> that's what's returned if the token is bad
[16:27:19] <deep42thought> oh, I already turned off php on the buildmaster ... either we really get the db running in multi-master mode or I need to reenable php :-)
[16:27:32] <tyzoid> lol
[16:27:35] <deep42thought> I have to leave now, cu later!
[16:27:38] <tyzoid> ok, see ya
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[17:01:01] <buildmaster> haskell-ansi-terminal is broken (says tyzoid-srv0-bs0).
[17:12:30] <buildmaster> haskell-colour is broken (says buildknecht3).
[17:26:22] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: is the Haskell fix working for you yet
[17:26:46] <tyzoid> elibrokeit: Probably requires some modification to our haskell mods
[17:26:57] <tyzoid> so I suspect it'll be broken until that gets fixed
[17:27:32] <elibrokeit> No, just build with nocheck
[17:27:39] <elibrokeit> It's a bootstrap issue
[17:28:56] <tyzoid> huh, looks like we don't have a haskell-specific dif
[17:29:00] <tyzoid> diff*
[17:30:22] <tyzoid> elibrokeit: https://ptpb.pw
[17:30:29] <buildmaster> haskell-test-framework-quickcheck2 is broken (says nlopc46).
[17:30:39] <tyzoid> that's the build-log from haskell-ansi-terminal
[17:30:41] <elibrokeit> tyzoid: there's some build cycles due to the testsuite on it's own requiring it's own reverse depends
[17:30:50] <buildmaster> haskell-test-framework is broken (says tyzoid-srv0-bs0).
[17:31:10] <elibrokeit> Just build with nocheck to resolve the cycle, build other things, then rebuild with check enabled
[17:31:23] <elibrokeit> (the soname will be different each time)
[17:31:37] <tyzoid> yeah, but that's still a manual step that we need to do
[17:31:41] <elibrokeit> Yes
[17:32:41] <elibrokeit> It's quite odd that Haskell builds different library sonames depending on whether --enable-tests was used
[17:32:41] <tyzoid> so the automated builds will be broken until we fix that. Likely, we'll just need to add more logic to the build system to tell it to discard the nocheck build once everything else is set
[17:32:46] <elibrokeit> But there you have it
[17:32:57] <tyzoid> unless we want to introduce a separate haskell-nocheck packages
[17:33:01] <tyzoid> package*
[17:33:19] <elibrokeit> It's easy to just rebuild, I guess
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[17:33:41] <tyzoid> well the nocheck package might allow us to not change logic / keep things automated
[17:33:47] <elibrokeit> Just tell the builder, iff a haskell-* package fails, retry with nocheck
[17:34:03] <elibrokeit> Then add that build to a new rebuild list
[17:34:28] <elibrokeit> You already have the code to rebuild on soname changes iirc
[17:36:12] <tyzoid> Well, that's up to deep42thought. I don't work with the build system very much at all
[17:39:41] <elibrokeit> So you're suggesting create a nocheck package which provides the main thing, and add it to build-support?
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[17:47:57] <tyzoid> elibrokeit: That's my thought
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[18:52:57] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[18:53:16] <deep42thought> elibrokeit, tyzoid: I thought of *-nocheck packages for haskell before, in build-support
[18:53:40] <deep42thought> but actually, I like elibrokeit's idea better of building with --nockeck if a first trial fails
[18:54:04] <deep42thought> and simply keeping the build order on the build-list / reinserting it
[18:54:48] <deep42thought> but currently, IDK, if the issue is really a circular dependency (I bootstrapped the last time manually with --nocheck)
[18:56:49] <buildmaster> deep42thought: Your buildslave "buildknecht" builds some outdated package.
[18:57:04] <deep42thought> the problem I saw with the build-support/no-check approach is, that we might end up with lots of packages in build-support
[18:57:09] <deep42thought> thx, buildmaster
[18:57:09] <buildmaster> np
[18:58:16] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: it's only circular if you try building with tests :D
[18:58:26] <deep42thought> wellll
[18:58:41] <deep42thought> it kept circular even when ignoring checkdepends
[18:58:45] <deep42thought> but you changed that :-)
[18:59:13] <elibrokeit> That's because the checkdepends were required for building even if you don't actually run the tests
[18:59:23] <deep42thought> yes, I noticed
[18:59:37] <elibrokeit> Because apparently Haskell is lol and embeds the tests into the primary configuration
[18:59:42] <deep42thought> "building with tests" means "without --nocheck" for me
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[20:05:54] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[20:11:30] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann
[20:13:30] <abaumann> hi
[20:17:17] <abaumann> mesa starts to tap on my nerves. either I get errors because of double rasters, or I get no rasterer at all and the xorg fails to start
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[21:51:40] <V7> Hey all
[21:51:49] <tyzoid> Hey, what's up?
[21:58:00] <tyzoid> V7: need something?
[21:58:30] <V7> Can't install arch 32: https://i.imgur.com
[21:58:34] <V7> Sorry for long message
[21:58:43] <V7> long-time *
[21:58:50] <tyzoid> Yes, this is a known issue
[21:59:00] <tyzoid> run pacman -Syu archlinux32-keyring first before pacstrap
[21:59:03] <V7> Do I need to pacman -Syu ?
[21:59:08] <tyzoid> Yeah
[21:59:13] <V7> Oh, understood
[21:59:18] <tyzoid> technically only need the keyring
[21:59:21] <V7> Just need to update keyrings
[21:59:34] <V7> Thank you very much tyzoid
[21:59:46] <tyzoid> No problem. I should probably release a new iso because of this
[21:59:53] <V7> Btw why arch stopped to support 32bit ?
[22:00:07] <tyzoid> Because of the effort it took on the part of maintainers
[22:00:19] <tyzoid> they wanted to focus resources on x86_64 and new features
[22:01:22] <V7> I'm really thankful for 32bit version, tyzoid, really ...
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[22:01:50] <tyzoid> V7: Also to abaumann and deep42thought :) They do most of the package work
[22:02:13] <tyzoid> Thanks for using arch32!
[22:05:21] <V7> tyzoid: Interesting
[22:05:30] <V7> Can't update archlinux32-keyring
[22:05:42] <deep42thought> v7: what's the error?
[22:05:57] <deep42thought> "sudo pacman-key --refresh-keys" should also solve the issue
[22:06:19] <tyzoid> deep42thought: it was complaining my key was marginal trust
[22:06:29] <V7> https://i.imgur.com
[22:06:52] <V7> I'll try refresh keys
[22:06:54] <deep42thought> V7: skip the "u"
[22:07:12] <deep42thought> you're currently trying to system-upgrade _and_ upgrading the keyring
[22:07:21] <deep42thought> but you need to upgrade _only_ the keyring first :-)
[22:07:52] <tyzoid> Yeah, I mistyped, you only need the keyring
[22:08:23] <V7> Understood
[22:08:44] <V7> Hope you'll be okay out there, pals :)
[22:16:18] <V7> It worked. Do you know why mirrors for arch32 are not available now ?
[22:16:36] <tyzoid> They should be available, what errors are you getting?
[22:16:36] <V7> arch32.mirrors.simplysam.us *
[22:16:41] <tyzoid> that one is down, iirc
[22:16:51] <tyzoid> If you want a us mirror, try 32.arlm.tyzoid.com
[22:16:55] <V7> Gives: Temporary failure in name resolution
[22:16:57] <tyzoid> that's the one I run
[22:17:08] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Do we need to remove simplysam.us?
[22:18:31] <deep42thought> hmm, dunno
[22:18:40] <V7> tyzoid: Do your pinging works on this mirror ?
[22:19:30] <tyzoid> $ ping 32.arlm.tyzoid.com
[22:19:31] <tyzoid> PING 32.arlm.tyzoid.com(2607:5600:dc::2 (2607:5600:dc::2)) 56 data bytes
[22:19:31] <tyzoid> 64 bytes from 2607:5600:dc::2 (2607:5600:dc::2): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=59.5 ms
[22:19:32] <tyzoid> 64 bytes from 2607:5600:dc::2 (2607:5600:dc::2): icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=73.8 ms
[22:19:36] <tyzoid> works fine from my side
[22:20:00] <V7> $ ping arch32.mirrors.simplysam.us
[22:20:04] <tyzoid> $ ping arch32.mirrors.simplysam.us
[22:20:04] <tyzoid> PING arch32.mirrors.simplysam.us(rro-web2-bhs5.gfdi.us (2607:5300:61:560::)) 56 data bytes
[22:20:05] <tyzoid> 64 bytes from rro-web2-bhs5.gfdi.us (2607:5300:61:560::): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=37.7 ms
[22:20:07] <tyzoid> works for me too
[22:20:13] <V7> Interesting
[22:20:20] <tyzoid> both ipv4 and ipv6
[22:20:52] <tyzoid> Huh, mirror looks online too
[22:20:55] <tyzoid> judging by browser
[22:21:06] <V7> Yup, it's something with OS
[22:21:14] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I think I'm misremembering the roelf one as the one that's not working right
[22:21:26] <V7> No site works through it
[22:21:26] <deep42thought> it was
[22:21:28] <tyzoid> V7: You've got an ip address?
[22:21:30] <deep42thought> but I think, he solved it
[22:21:38] <deep42thought> also Vollzornbrot's mirror was down, but is back on
[22:21:43] <deep42thought> s/on/up/
[22:21:43] <tyzoid> nice
[22:22:02] <V7> ifconfig tells local ip and I'm chatting through this lan so issue is in arch
[22:22:27] <deep42thought> V7: name resolution?
[22:22:41] <V7> deep42thought: Yup, ping google.com doesn't work too
[22:22:44] <tyzoid> what's in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[22:22:52] <V7> Might be after updating keyrig
[22:22:58] <V7> keyring *
[22:23:21] <V7> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[22:23:39] <tyzoid> uh, try nameserver 1.1.1.1
[22:23:40] <V7> This is in /etc/resolv.conf ^
[22:29:23] <V7> tyzoid: Now, network works ( after reboot )
[22:29:29] <tyzoid> nice
[22:29:45] <V7> Btw a new one: https://i.imgur.com
[22:30:07] <tyzoid> hmm
[22:30:21] <V7> This is after update
[22:30:25] <V7> reboot *
[22:30:28] <tyzoid> try pacman-key --populate archlinux32
[22:31:17] <tyzoid> then pacman-key --refresh-keys
[22:32:10] <V7> https://i.imgur.com
[22:32:42] <deep42thought> pacman-key --init
[22:33:44] <deep42thought> to start all over: 'rm -rf /etc/pacman.d/gnupg && pacman-key --init && pacman-key --populate archlinux && pacman-key --populate archlinux32 && pacman-key --refresh-keys'
[22:33:54] <V7> https://i.image.com
[22:34:00] <V7> https://i.image.com *
[22:34:42] <V7> deep42thought: I've just rebooted PC so it shoult load all from zero, shouldn't it ?
[22:34:59] <deep42thought> no
[22:35:02] <deep42thought> that's the keyring
[22:35:04] <deep42thought> it's persistent
[22:35:15] <V7> oh
[22:35:31] <tyzoid> deep42thought: No he's on the live media
[22:35:37] <tyzoid> deep42thought: a reboot should reset it
[22:35:48] <tyzoid> (back to the iso state(
[22:36:07] <deep42thought> ah, my bad
[22:36:08] <deep42thought> sry
[22:36:13] <deep42thought> tyzoid is right :-D
[22:36:58] <tyzoid> odd that init is causing errors like that, you got a working internet connection?
[22:38:01] <V7> Yes, an internet works
[22:41:10] <V7> So
[22:41:21] <V7> I've rebooted one more tiem and chcked internet connection. It works.
[22:41:39] <V7> After that I've tried to: pacman -Sy archlinux32-keyring and now it gives:
[22:41:56] <V7> https://i.imgur.com
[22:42:50] <deep42thought> ls -l /etc/pacman.d/
[22:43:09] <deep42thought> tyzoid: is this mounted r/o on the iso???
[22:44:21] <V7> deep42thought: https://i.imgur.com
[22:45:04] <deep42thought> claims to be writable
[22:45:05] <deep42thought> ...
[22:45:27] <deep42thought> can you check, that / is actually mounted rw?
[22:45:41] <V7> You mean ls -l / ?
[22:46:19] <deep42thought> mount
[22:46:22] <deep42thought> and look for "/"
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[22:47:52] <V7> https://i.imgur.com
[22:48:05] <V7> Can't find anything / related
[22:48:21] <deep42thought> "airootfs on / type overlay (rw,..."
[22:48:24] <deep42thought> it is mounted rw
[22:49:20] <deep42thought> do the steps I wrote to "start from scratch"
[22:49:29] <deep42thought> and let's see, what fails :-)
[22:49:35] <V7> It tells persistent, isn't it ?>
[22:49:54] <V7> In mount flags for /
[22:51:53] <deep42thought> that's just the directory name of the "upper" dir
[22:51:55] <deep42thought> looks ok
[22:52:33] <V7> deep42thought: Tried to run upper command pack
[22:53:12] <V7> Gives: /etc/pacman.d/gnupg Device or resource busy
[22:54:02] <deep42thought> how much ram do you have? maybe the tmpfs is too large for it :-/
[22:54:17] <V7> 512MB
[22:54:28] <V7> How much is needed ?
[22:54:35] <deep42thought> I have no hard numbers
[22:54:41] <deep42thought> but 512MB sound sufficient
[22:54:51] <deep42thought> I mean: the iso itself is not much more than that
[22:55:02] <V7> Ok, I'll run with 1GB
[22:56:51] <V7> Booting with 1GB now
[23:00:25] <V7> The same
[23:00:29] <deep42thought> :-(
[23:11:00] <deep42thought> tyzoid: maybe, the best approach here is really to make a mid-month iso ...
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[23:16:33] <elibrokeit> Or handle signing keys with more than a week's notice
[23:16:44] <deep42thought> .. or not expire ones keys :-D
[23:17:17] <elibrokeit> That's one way of handling them indeed
[23:17:53] <elibrokeit> I think at least part of my signing key expires late 2019
[23:18:10] <deep42thought> otoh, I think, the issue of the keyring is currently, that polichronucci's key expired (in the keyring) and the elongated version is only available on keyservers ..
[23:18:23] <elibrokeit> That means I've got a couple months to update it before I violate the self-imposed one-year grace period
[23:18:31] <deep42thought> :-D
[23:23:26] <V7> Oh dear
[23:23:32] <V7> Finaally it worked
[23:23:36] <deep42thought> :-)
[23:23:39] <deep42thought> what did you do?
[23:23:52] <V7> So, the steps:
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[23:28:07] <V7> pacman-key --init && pacman-key --populate archlinux && pacman -Sy archlinux32-keyring && pacman-key --populate archlinux32 && pacman-key --refresh-keys && pacstrap...
[23:28:24] <V7> Something liek this
[23:28:27] <deep42thought> ok
[23:28:27] <V7> liek *
[23:28:30] <V7> like **
[23:28:41] <deep42thought> so why did "pacman-key --init" fail the first time O.o
[23:28:42] <deep42thought> hrmmmm
[23:29:09] <V7> You mean at the start of converstaion ?
[23:29:18] <V7> conversation *
[23:29:19] <deep42thought> yes
[23:29:46] <V7> Don't know. Such a confusing thing was there.
[23:29:59] <V7> Might be something wrong with RAM
[23:32:02] <V7> Thank you very much tyzoid and deep42thought, hope it'll be okay now
[23:32:04] <V7> :)
[23:32:26] <deep42thought> yeah, np
[23:32:38] <deep42thought> I needed to balance my help-get-help relation
[23:32:52] <deep42thought> (the guys at #archlinuxarm could help me with a problem)
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