#archlinux32 | Logs for 2018-06-19
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[06:28:29] <buildmaster> girls, my database is dirty again ...
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[08:02:32] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
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[09:45:28] <deep42thought> tyzoid: my registrar does not provide some failover possibility
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[10:09:54] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[10:09:58] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[10:10:12] <abaumann> hi.
[10:10:27] <abaumann> Am I the only one getting a certificate error on https://www.archlinux32.org?
[10:10:47] <deep42thought> no
[10:10:49] <abaumann> Name mistmatch.
[10:10:53] <deep42thought> "curl: (51) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'www.archlinux32.org'"
[10:11:09] <deep42thought> tyzoid: ^
[10:11:13] <abaumann> https://status.archlinux32.org
[10:11:28] <abaumann> should monitor https not http, especially as the http page redirects to https :-)
[10:11:38] <deep42thought> archlinux32.org works
[10:11:47] <deep42thought> maybe it's monitoring that?
[10:12:22] <abaumann> It's redireting to https://www.archlinux.org :-)
[10:12:22] <phrik> Title:Arch Linux (at www.archlinux.org)
[10:12:57] <abaumann> But monitoring it in status is a godd idea. :-)
[10:13:02] <abaumann> *good
[10:13:46] <deep42thought> who redirects to www.archlinux.org?
[10:13:56] <deep42thought> https://archlinux32.org works for me
[10:13:57] <phrik> Title:Arch Linux 32 (at archlinux32.org)
[10:14:13] <abaumann> archlinux32 I meant. sorry :-)
[10:14:28] <abaumann> yeah. I'm testing archlinux.org..
[10:14:54] <abaumann> My browser is too smart and redirects me.
[10:14:58] <deep42thought> :-D
[10:15:08] <deep42thought> I hate smart browsers
[10:15:36] <deep42thought> you type something in the address bar and it starts a search for it, just because your domain did not contain a "."
[10:16:00] <abaumann> copy-paste starts a search, also sweet.
[10:16:20] <deep42thought> I disabled all that smartness in my firefox
[10:16:22] <abaumann> at least, older firefoxes did that.
[10:16:42] <abaumann> You have to disable firefox in order to get rid of all smartness. ;-)
[10:16:54] <deep42thought> makes my coworkers come up with a lot of dns errors when they type something in my browser :-D
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[14:31:52] <deep42thought> just FYI: haskell-hspec/haskell-stringbuilder and qt5-webengine are the packages which block currently the most build list items
[15:05:52] <pulec> the dualiso contains the i686 and regular x64 arch?
[15:05:59] <deep42thought> pulec: yes
[15:06:02] <pulec> neat
[15:06:24] <pulec> I mean, the x64 part is same as the one from https://www.archlinux.org
[15:06:26] <phrik> Title:Arch Linux - Downloads (at www.archlinux.org)
[15:06:26] <pulec> ?
[15:06:30] <deep42thought> "regular" means, we build it ourself, but it should be more or less identical to what archlinux provides (maybe some software has different versions)
[15:06:55] <pulec> oh I see
[15:07:05] <pulec> got 3 pcs to revive
[15:07:17] <pulec> they were running regular arch few y back
[15:07:23] <pulec> kernel 4.8.13 latest I think
[15:08:05] <deep42thought> you can repair regular arch from the dual-iso
[15:08:24] <deep42thought> that was my intention to keep it: I need multiple os'es on a singe thumb drive :-)
[15:20:54] <pulec> yup
[15:25:48] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Yeah, I didn't bother adding a cert for www.archlinux32.org, as I've set http://www.archlinux32.org to redirect.
[15:25:50] <phrik> Title:Arch Linux 32 (at www.archlinux32.org)
[15:26:48] <deep42thought> tyzoid: ah, ok, I was assuming, there's hsts or similar on www.archlinux32.org as well
[15:26:58] <tyzoid> Yeah, that's my mistake
[15:27:02] <tyzoid> default config I forgot to remove
[15:27:20] <tyzoid> was just about to remove that, actually
[15:28:01] <deep42thought> :-)
[15:32:14] <tyzoid> deep42thought: And while I was in, I added a cert for www. and redirected to the non-www url.
[15:33:09] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Btw, I've got the homepage in the same container as bbs and news
[15:33:15] <tyzoid> so you've got access to that if you need it
[15:33:19] <deep42thought> ok
[15:33:37] <deep42thought> I wanted to put some dynamic php/mysql stuff there some time
[15:33:46] <deep42thought> e.g. new packages, mirror statuses, ...
[15:34:01] <tyzoid> I hesitate to autopull executable content
[15:34:18] <deep42thought> you do on packages.archlinux32.org ;-)
[15:34:35] <tyzoid> yeah, but it's contained on a separate container
[15:34:43] <tyzoid> this is on the forum container
[15:34:50] <deep42thought> ah, right, confused those
[15:35:08] <tyzoid> We can play the shell game and move it around a bit xD
[15:35:34] <deep42thought> might be a good idea anyway, so we don't need to clone the db twice
[15:35:46] <deep42thought> or set up cross-container access for it
[15:36:04] <tyzoid> it's mostly just adding a user with access on %
[15:36:07] <tyzoid> it's firewalled anyway
[15:36:17] <deep42thought> ok
[15:36:22] <deep42thought> your decision
[15:36:22] <tyzoid> so not to big of an issue, but we can move it
[15:36:45] <tyzoid> Well, probably best to move it to the sql container, so that you've got all the package stuff together
[15:37:58] <tyzoid> btw, you've got php error logs on packages.archlinux32.org
[15:38:05] <deep42thought> I know
[15:38:10] <deep42thought> mostly warnings, though :-/
[15:39:03] <deep42thought> plus I'm not that good at programming in php
[15:39:19] <tyzoid> mostly just need to check error conditions
[15:39:28] <deep42thought> "array_diff(): Argument #1 is not an array"
[15:39:29] <tyzoid> i.e. is_array() and
[15:39:33] <tyzoid> !empty()
[15:39:34] <phrik> tyzoid: Say what?
[15:39:46] <tyzoid> !go away
[15:39:46] <phrik> tyzoid: You might be able to bribe me for an answer…
[15:39:50] <tyzoid> LOL
[15:40:00] <tyzoid> !bribr phrik
[15:40:00] <phrik> tyzoid: Eh?
[15:40:05] <tyzoid> !bribe phrik
[15:40:05] <phrik> tyzoid: No idea
[15:40:14] <deep42thought> !bribe 20€
[15:40:15] <phrik> deep42thought: Is that a question?
[15:40:20] <deep42thought> no, it's an offer
[15:51:56] <tyzoid> deep42thought: packages.archlinux32.org is currently broken while I work on changing some configs
[15:52:04] <deep42thought> I thought so :-)
[15:52:20] <deep42thought> maybe you can clean up my config mess a little, while you're on it ...
[15:52:28] <tyzoid> that's the plan
[15:52:31] <tyzoid> moved into vhosts.d
[15:52:52] <tyzoid> but the thing that broke is changing /srv/http to /srv/http/packages.archlinux32.org/
[15:55:01] <tyzoid> Ah, damn
[15:55:07] <tyzoid> include path is set to /srv/http :/
[15:55:21] <deep42thought> at several locations ...
[15:55:24] <tyzoid> ...
[15:55:41] <deep42thought> sry, I'm a physicist, and we stop as soon as we have a working setup :-D
[15:55:52] <tyzoid> Nah, it's all good.
[15:55:59] <tyzoid> Just got some cleanup on aisle 3
[15:56:12] <deep42thought> aisle 3?
[16:00:27] <tyzoid> It's a joke
[16:00:49] <tyzoid> as in, if in a grocery store, product drops on the floor and breaks
[16:01:22] <deep42thought> ah, I'm just not used to calling the rows "aisle"
[16:01:52] <deep42thought> anyway, I have to leave now
[16:01:54] <deep42thought> cu later!
[16:01:59] <tyzoid> see ya
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[17:38:44] <V7> Hey all
[17:39:22] <V7> When booting from CD it shows "boot:" prompt right after "Syslinux copyright"
[17:42:47] <buildmaster> haskell-snap-core is broken (says rechenknecht).
[17:47:32] <buildmaster> haskell-lucid is broken (says nlopc43).
[17:53:01] <tyzoid> V7: Odd
[17:53:14] <V7> tyzoid: Screen: https://i.imgur.com
[17:53:51] <tyzoid> V7: Looks like the bootloader prompt
[17:53:57] <V7> Yup
[17:53:59] <tyzoid> Do you have something resting on the 'e' key on your keyboard?
[17:54:32] <V7> If it was then it could fill a prompt with this key, wouldn't it ?
[17:54:49] <tyzoid> potentially
[17:55:00] <tyzoid> all pain is from experience
[17:55:07] <tyzoid> Regardless, reboot doesn't fix it?
[17:55:17] <V7> No, uh, the same
[17:55:30] <tyzoid> which iso?
[17:55:37] <tyzoid> latest-i686?
[17:55:48] <V7> i686 + 64
[17:55:52] <V7> Yes, latest
[17:56:14] <tyzoid> does the i686-only one boot?
[17:56:29] <tyzoid> Also, does the bootloader flash before going to prompt?
[17:56:31] <V7> I'll try now
[17:58:29] <buildmaster> haskell-http-streams is broken (says buildknecht).
[17:59:25] <buildmaster> haskell-microlens-aeson is broken (says nlopc46).
[18:03:00] <V7> tyzoid: Answer for a second question: No, it doesn't. Only SysLinux copyright shows for 2 sedconds and then clean screen with "boot:" prompt.
[18:03:21] <V7> I'll try now burn only i686 image and boot from it.
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[18:09:41] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[18:13:11] <tyzoid> wb
[18:13:27] <abaumann> hi.
[18:13:35] <abaumann> www.archlinux32.org is alive and kicking. :-)
[18:13:49] <tyzoid> Yup, added ssl + the redirect
[18:14:24] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Btw, migration to packages is successful
[18:14:30] <abaumann> mmh. isn't the redirect usually the other way round?
[18:14:36] <abaumann> non-www to www
[18:16:45] <tyzoid> Ehh, can go both ways
[18:16:57] <abaumann> matter of taste, I guess. :-)
[18:19:34] <tyzoid> abaumann: As far as I can tell, it's always been archlinux32.org
[18:19:37] <tyzoid> without www
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[18:19:42] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[18:19:48] <deep42thought> Hi all!
[18:19:48] <tyzoid> wb
[18:20:19] <abaumann> hi deep42thought :-)
[18:31:14] <V7> tyzoid: The same
[18:33:19] <deep42thought> abaumann: is your build slave running on autopilot?
[18:34:27] <deep42thought> because if not, you could run "bin/build-packages -p haskell-http-streams -s :without_check:"
[18:34:28] <abaumann> aeh. yes. 10000 feet over ground. ;-)
[18:34:38] <abaumann> ah.
[18:34:51] <abaumann> I'm currently in a non-pipe build of firefox-developer-edition
[18:34:58] <deep42thought> unfortunately, I gave my "manual" build slaves the order to compile 1000 packages :-)
[18:34:58] <abaumann> could take a while.. :-)
[18:35:05] <deep42thought> ah, ok
[18:35:10] <abaumann> 1000. :-)
[18:41:39] <tyzoid> V7: Hmm
[18:42:35] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Any ideas? V7's getting the syslinux bootloader prompt when booting the iso
[18:42:44] <deep42thought> tyzoid: I saw
[18:42:49] <deep42thought> but I have no idea
[18:42:54] <tyzoid> :/
[18:43:06] <tyzoid> V7: What's the machine you're booting on?
[18:43:15] <deep42thought> shouldn't one be in principle able to start the live medium manually from that prompt?
[18:44:13] <V7> AI'll try to find a model name now
[18:48:09] <deep42thought> these haskell test suites are sometimes really annoying: expected: "{\"a\":40,\"b\":70}"
[18:48:09] <deep42thought> but got: "{\"b\":70,\"a\":40}"
[18:48:29] <deep42thought> really great
[18:49:22] <deep42thought> expected: Just "X-STUFF, Content-Type"
[18:49:22] <deep42thought> but got: Just "Content-Type, X-STUFF"
[18:49:41] <V7> It jsut doesn't have any model name on board, but it was made in 2001 and it has AGP slot
[18:50:13] <V7> deep42thought: What do you mean by "from prompt"
[18:50:28] <deep42thought> the prompt is the bootloader
[18:50:43] <deep42thought> if you give it the correct command, it should find the iso and boot the kernel therein
[18:50:48] <V7> Now it shows: https://i.imgur.com
[18:50:54] <deep42thought> My guess is, that the device naming is wrong or something
[18:51:41] <abaumann> mmh. that 'boot:' seems to be the syslinux boot prompt.
[18:51:54] <deep42thought> isn't syslinux the bootloader?
[18:51:54] <abaumann> so you can use 'initrd ...' and 'kernel ...' directoly
[18:51:59] <abaumann> *directly
[18:52:05] <deep42thought> ^ that's what I meant
[18:52:22] <deep42thought> the question is just, what device to give it ...
[18:52:26] <abaumann> or at least you get an error message, what's wrong when loading the kernel.
[18:52:29] <deep42thought> and where the initrd is located
[18:52:40] <V7> I've tried to see the files and found one label in syslinux.cfg which is: loadconfig
[18:53:46] <abaumann> and archiso.cfg says:
[18:53:50] <V7> initrd: no such file or directory
[18:54:03] <abaumann> load archiso_sys.cfg
[18:54:16] <abaumann> and there is initrd boot/i686/archiso.img
[18:54:28] <abaumann> and append archisobasedirarch archisolabel=ARCH_201806
[18:54:34] <abaumann> and linux boot/i686/vmlinuz
[18:54:53] <abaumann> I would try to enter those commands by hand.
[18:54:57] <V7> "ls boot/i686" gave: vmlinux and archis.img
[18:55:10] <abaumann> initrd boot/i686/archiso.img?
[18:55:14] <abaumann> does is work?
[18:55:22] <V7> initrd no such file or directory
[18:55:58] <abaumann> inird arch/boot/i686/archiso.img
[18:56:01] <tyzoid> deep42thought: You saw the PR on archweb32?
[18:56:08] <deep42thought> no
[18:56:19] <deep42thought> I'll look after dinner
[18:56:31] <V7> abaumann: inird no such file or directory
[18:56:37] <abaumann> mmh.
[18:58:00] <V7> Hm
[18:58:25] <V7> I've tried: "boot/i686/vmlinuz" and it just showed some stuff and put computer to freeze with black screen
[18:59:07] <V7> So as Reset button doesn't work now, haha
[18:59:17] <V7> Only plugging out a power cable worked
[19:03:21] <abaumann> so, maybe syslinux can just not load and show the menu? and you can just press <Enter> at 'boot:'?
[19:03:30] <abaumann> or press <TAB> to show options to boot?
[19:04:34] <V7> Tab just makes a new line ( like pressing ENter on empty prompt ). Enter just executes last command
[19:04:52] <abaumann> really weird.
[19:05:13] <buildmaster> haskell-wai-logger is broken (says buildknecht2).
[19:22:22] <V7> Interestiung
[19:22:29] <V7> Interesting *
[19:22:42] <V7> Found that it shows one line before complete freeze
[19:22:52] <buildmaster> haskell-swagger2 is broken (says buildknecht).
[19:23:48] <V7> Just about for 0.1s, caught via video: https://i.imgur.com
[19:27:33] <abaumann> acpi=off in the kernel parameter (APPEND)
[19:27:55] <V7> You mean,: boot/i686/vmlinuz acpi=off ?
[19:28:31] <abaumann> I think so.
[19:29:09] <abaumann> or as 'APPEND archisobasedir=arch archisolabel=ARCH_201806 acpi=off'
[19:30:08] <abaumann> in the file. I think interactively you can abbend them to the linux <kernelfile> parameter
[19:30:56] <V7> How to ?
[19:31:00] <V7> It just a prompt
[19:31:34] <V7> The same
[19:31:42] <V7> Just black screen and freezed computer
[19:34:44] <deep42thought> tyzoid: in lib/style.php, I guess the missing "BASE" is a typo - or is it intentional?
[19:37:44] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Hmm
[19:37:54] <tyzoid> Was intentional, but forgot to remove lib
[19:38:04] <deep42thought> ah, ok :-)
[19:38:12] <tyzoid> but probably should use base anywa
[19:38:16] <tyzoid> anyway
[19:43:21] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Pushed up a thing to fix it
[19:43:26] <tyzoid> also changes some other stuff too
[19:44:03] <abaumann> so. isolinux is officially stupid.
[19:44:30] <tyzoid> abaumann: Should I try to switch archiso32 to grub?
[19:44:37] <deep42thought> maybe some invalid opcode in the bootloader/initramdisk/kernel?
[19:44:43] <abaumann> no, I don't think so
[19:44:52] <deep42thought> I'm afraid, I'm not a big help with bootloaders
[19:44:56] <abaumann> but there should be a way to type all command at the boot: prompt, right?
[19:45:02] <deep42thought> abaumann: yes
[19:45:12] <tyzoid> `help`?
[19:48:50] <abaumann> if isolinux shows a menu, you can simply hit [TAB] and then edit the command line arguments and for instance append a acpi=off
[19:48:56] <deep42thought> tyzoid: if require_once only includes once, you can also drop the "if (function_exists())" part in lib/style.php and lib/mysql.php
[19:49:14] <abaumann> if you drop into the boot: prompt, you hvae to execute 'linux' (the linux.c32) module and pass the parameters by hand.
[19:50:16] <abaumann> ls boot/i686 shows [dir] . [dir] .. archiso.img vmlinuz
[19:50:37] <tyzoid> deep42thought: It's a fairly inexpensive safeguard
[19:50:45] <tyzoid> since redefining an existing function is a fatal
[19:50:56] <abaumann> if I say linux, it says rightly: 'linux.c32: missing kernel name'
[19:50:57] <tyzoid> and function_exists() is an O(1) hashmap lookup
[19:51:32] <deep42thought> tyzoid: ok
[19:55:49] <abaumann> so actually: 'linux boot/i686/vmlinuz initrd=/boot/i686/archiso.img archisobasedir=arch archisolabel=ARCH_201806 acpi=off' should work
[19:56:07] <abaumann> ^V7
[19:56:51] <abaumann> that is, if that is the only problem in the bios. ACPI.
[19:57:00] <abaumann> maybe also switching ACPI off in the BIOS is an option.
[19:57:20] <abaumann> really hard to tell remotely.. :-)
[19:57:37] <deep42thought> maybe we should add some safe-boot-options to the iso?
[19:57:56] <abaumann> mmh. if we would know what safe boot options are.. :-)
[19:58:09] <deep42thought> *=off
[19:58:25] <abaumann> The fancy menu is sometimes a problem. I really prefer a console one..
[19:58:48] <abaumann> .. on the other hand, with more modern cards the graphical menu may be better.
[19:59:01] <abaumann> anyway. We should not deviate to much from the upstream ISO anyway.
[19:59:13] <deep42thought> yes
[19:59:20] <deep42thought> we are too few people already :-)
[19:59:33] <abaumann> normally you hit [TAB] and add some magic params. that ususally works fine.
[20:00:32] <abaumann> too few people.. I noticed too. :-)
[20:02:36] <deep42thought> well, too few volunteers is usually not caused by the people who volunteer ;-)
[20:04:56] <V7> uh
[20:04:59] <V7> The same
[20:05:14] <V7> It showd that it was loading kernel and image, but after that. Black screen
[20:05:33] <abaumann> without the model of the machine, there is little I can google for in the internet. :-)
[20:05:48] <V7> Yup
[20:05:52] <deep42thought> graphics issue?
[20:05:54] <V7> I don't know how to a machine's name
[20:06:21] <abaumann> you could maybe boot another distro and do some 'dmideode', 'lshw', 'lspci' there?
[20:06:37] <deep42thought> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:06:51] <deep42thought> but usually there should be some print on the mother board
[20:07:43] <V7> deep42thought: The fact that I can't boot linux to input that command
[20:08:01] <deep42thought> other distros don't work either?
[20:08:07] <V7> window resize 50
[20:08:14] <V7> sorry ^
[20:08:17] <abaumann> :-)
[20:08:18] <abaumann> np
[20:08:29] <V7> This is 32bit and non pae CPU
[20:08:41] <tyzoid> Have you tried an older iso?
[20:08:47] <V7> Yes, the same
[20:08:54] <tyzoid> how far back?
[20:09:23] <deep42thought> usually it does not hurt to use an older iso
[20:09:24] <V7> Btw you're talking about arch32 or other OS ?
[20:09:29] <tyzoid> arch32
[20:10:28] <V7> I didn't triewd older arch32
[20:10:39] <V7> try *
[20:10:52] <tyzoid> Yeah, try the February one
[20:11:13] <V7> Where I can downlaod it ?
[20:11:14] <tyzoid> https://archive.archlinux32.org / https://archive.archlinux32.org
[20:11:15] <abaumann> yep. because that's the one which also worked fine with virtualbox.
[20:11:17] <V7> oh
[20:11:25] <abaumann> there could be a kernel problem lurking there.
[20:11:41] <tyzoid> abaumann: Doubt it's a kernel problem if it's not getting to the kernel in the first place
[20:11:49] <tyzoid> but can't hurt to use a known-better iso xD
[20:11:54] <abaumann> :-)
[20:13:36] <V7> Downloading
[20:28:05] <V7> Interesting, while it was downloading I've burned Bodhi Linux ( 64bit version ) to check if syslinux will load on it and it loaded! Of course it won't install on 32bit, but syslinux worked!
[20:31:33] <deep42thought> maybe our syslinux has a bug?
[20:32:49] <abaumann> I don't think it's a syslinux bug. the kernel loads and says the BIOS has an ACPI bug.
[20:32:57] <abaumann> this messages comes from the kernel, I suppose?
[20:33:38] <V7> abaumann: Btw it tells this after prompt command
[20:34:14] <V7> Bodhi's syslinux showed "boot:" prompt, too, but after 5 seconds it showed bootloader's graphical menu
[20:34:45] <abaumann> ACPI BIO Error (bug), this is a kernel message.
[20:35:36] <abaumann> wow: the haskell-knot is away :-)
[20:35:39] <V7> Tried 2018.02. The same boot prompt and no activity after that
[20:36:23] <V7> WOW
[20:36:28] <abaumann> mmh?
[20:36:41] <V7> It worked when I've executed boot/i686/linux on 2018.02 image
[20:36:49] <abaumann> aha.
[20:36:51] <V7> boot/i686/vmlinuz *
[20:36:54] <abaumann> that's nice :-)
[20:36:56] <deep42thought> \o/
[20:37:24] <abaumann> So the bug is related to https://bugs.archlinux32.org
[20:37:26] <phrik> Title:FS#37 : ISO 2018.05.01 is not bootable with qemu or Virtualbox (at bugs.archlinux32.org)
[20:37:29] <V7> but
[20:37:39] <abaumann> .. oh menno.. :-(
[20:37:54] <abaumann> just kidding ;-)
[20:38:29] <V7> Yes, it showed graphical menu and when I've selected an option of i686 arch it just freezed a computer as before
[20:38:32] <V7> Haha
[20:39:06] <abaumann> but now you can hit [TAB] in the menu and append acpi=off as parameter. :-)
[20:39:57] <V7> By freezing I mean, HDD/CD Led is not blinking, screen is black and Power/Reset buttons don't work
[20:40:01] <V7> abaumann: I'll try now
[20:41:08] <V7> Uh, the same with acpi=off flag
[20:41:42] <V7> What could this be ...
[20:41:48] <abaumann> As you have a Bodhi Linux around, it would really help to know, what hardware is inside this machine..
[20:42:09] <deep42thought> abaumann: that's a 64 bit one
[20:42:16] <V7> I'll try to laod their 32bit version and boot it
[20:42:20] <V7> load *
[20:42:30] <abaumann> ah. yes.
[20:46:31] <deep42thought> they have a quite absolute approach to dsgvo: https://www.bodhilinux.com
[20:46:32] <phrik> Title:Forums / Comments Closed Due to GDPR | Bodhi LinuxForums / Comments Closed Due to GDPR | Bodhi Linux (at www.bodhilinux.com)
[20:48:12] <abaumann> ui. that's drastic.
[20:54:34] <V7> Their image freezes computer too
[20:54:56] <V7> Wahta strange mobo
[20:55:09] <deep42thought> V7: you sure you're hardware is fine?
[20:55:22] <V7> I'm not sure ^^
[20:55:26] <deep42thought> :-D
[20:55:34] <V7> I'll execute memtest
[20:55:36] <deep42thought> how could you be sure ;-)
[20:56:01] <V7> If I had POST card
[20:56:48] <V7> Btw what could be jammed if it freezes after kernel boot ?
[20:57:10] <abaumann> you could add a 'debug' option to the kernel option.
[20:57:14] <abaumann> maybe you see more then.
[20:57:38] <abaumann> some hardware initialization most likely, given it's that early in the boot process.
[20:58:20] <abaumann> removing components sometimes helps, for instance I had once a buggy SCSI card doing strange things doing the boot process.
[20:58:41] <V7> It has only AGP video card attached
[20:59:05] <abaumann> ah. that one is sort of necessary. :-)
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[21:37:52] <buildmaster> sagemath is broken (says buildknecht2).
[21:41:22] <V7> Btw memtest whows: CPU Pentium III, RAM: 512MB SDRAM, Chipset: Intel i815
[21:41:31] <V7> shows *
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[21:54:35] <V7> It passed, no errors
[22:06:38] <buildmaster> kde-cli-tools is broken (says tyzoid-srv0-bs0).
[22:08:18] <buildmaster> girls, my database is dirty again ...
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[23:40:47] <V7> So, arch32 is for i686 and above ?