#archlinux32 | Logs for 2018-12-12

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[00:39:22] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-hspec-smallcheck is broken (says rechenknecht).
[00:54:39] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-monad-control is broken (says eurobuild3).
[00:59:20] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-semigroupoids are broken (says eurobuild3) - I rescheduled: haskell-doctest.
[01:02:31] <thePiGre1per> elibrokeit: hi, one quick question. if I installed the x64 linux package on an arch32 system, would it boot? or some other change is in order?
[01:03:08] <elibrokeit> thePiGre1per: if your CPU supports long mode, it will boot the 64-bit code just fine
[01:03:26] <elibrokeit> in fact, this is how you migrate on a live system from 32-bit to 64-bit
[01:03:43] <elibrokeit> install 64-bit kernel, reboot to it so you can run both types of binary
[01:04:12] <elibrokeit> use 64-bit system to replace your 32-bit userland piece by piece with 64-bit binaries
[01:04:12] <thePiGre1per> hm, right, I think so too. however, I just did that on qemu(x64) and it kernel panic during boot
[01:04:32] <elibrokeit> does your cpu (emulated or otherwise) support long mode
[01:05:05] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-doctest is broken (says eurobuild3).
[01:05:15] <thePiGre1per> well, it is the qemu for x64 so I assume it does, and the host system does as well
[01:07:17] <thePiGre1per> the only thing I did to the arch32 system was remove linux package and its mkinitcpio-busybox mkinitcpio dependencies, and then install the x64 version of them, then reboot
[01:08:13] <thePiGre1per> and just now I saw that mkinitcpio is just a script so, that was useless, but either way it didnt work..
[01:08:42] <thePiGre1per> any idea?
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[01:12:55] <elibrokeit> Mkinitcpio-busybox? Why did you replace that...
[01:13:10] <elibrokeit> It's linked to the 64-bit glibc
[01:13:18] <thePiGre1per> ohh
[01:13:27] <thePiGre1per> ok, I didnt know that. that's it
[01:13:35] <elibrokeit> And you still have the 32-bit version installed :)
[01:14:05] <elibrokeit> Anyway no need to remove Linux then replace it
[01:14:13] <thePiGre1per> kernel couldnt execute init because of that, right?
[01:14:14] <elibrokeit> Just Pacman -U ...
[01:14:35] <elibrokeit> Right, because /sbin/init failed to load libc
[01:15:00] <elibrokeit> Pacman -U can upgrade the Linux kernel in place and swap to 64-bit
[01:15:09] <thePiGre1per> yeah, that was because I originally tried to do the installation from an installer using pacstrap, but then it gave some error about the current kernel arch
[01:15:32] <thePiGre1per> I thought that by removing the kernel package it would stop giving the error
[01:15:52] <thePiGre1per> but it didnt, so I just chrooted into it and downloaded the packages and installed them with -U
[01:16:15] <elibrokeit> Pacstrap uses -S and not -U
[01:16:39] <elibrokeit> Therefore it does arch checks to make sure the package matches your Architecture from Pacman.conf
[01:16:46] <elibrokeit> Uh
[01:16:56] <elibrokeit> IIRC
[01:17:20] <elibrokeit> Cannot definitively remember the exact conditions for the check
[01:18:19] <thePiGre1per> right, but that's weird, because the installer was x64 and the conf was from the installer as well. the only possible explanation would be that pacstrap made some kind of check to the installed package
[01:18:56] <elibrokeit> No, this is 100% pacman
[01:19:03] <elibrokeit> The default arch is "auto"
[01:19:12] <thePiGre1per> the one on the arch32 system
[01:19:14] <elibrokeit> Which extrapolates from uname
[01:20:04] <thePiGre1per> pacstrap does some kind of chrooting before calling pacman?
[01:20:30] <thePiGre1per> how does it know the arch from the arch32 filesystem?
[01:21:19] <thePiGre1per> well. interesting nonetheless. probably gonna check the pacstrap script later to learn more about this
[01:22:56] <elibrokeit> It is the arch from the host
[01:23:15] <elibrokeit> Or the arch from the setarch command in some cases
[01:26:49] <thePiGre1per> Ive seen that kind of error(the one you're describing) when I try to use pacstrap from my 64-bit system to get an arch32 system, and I need to have several things: a new mirrorlist file, a new pacman.conf file pointing to the mirrorlist file, and lastly a setarch i686 command before the pacstrap command.
[01:27:17] <thePiGre1per> but I always thought that that was only because the mirrorlist had that $arch variable in the links
[01:27:30] <thePiGre1per> and another option could be to just hardcode that part.
[01:28:24] <thePiGre1per> I never thought that there was an additional check that made the operation abort
[01:28:40] <elibrokeit> Hmm?
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[01:29:13] <elibrokeit> The $arch is replaced by the Pacman.conf "Architecture" field.
[01:29:37] <elibrokeit> Also the error message should specify why it aborted
[01:30:02] <thePiGre1per> sure, but when it's on auto I mean
[01:49:38] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-config-ini is broken (says nlopc46).
[01:51:59] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-hledger-lib is broken (says rechenknecht) - I rescheduled: haskell-doctest.
[01:54:49] <thePiGre1per> elibrokeit: reinstalled mkinitcpio-busybox and it works just fine, as expected. thx
[01:59:31] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-doctest is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[02:25:17] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-sbv is broken (says nlopc46) - I rescheduled: haskell-aeson, haskell-doctest, haskell-yaml, hlint.
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[02:39:32] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-doctest is broken (says rechenknecht).
[02:55:09] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-path-io is broken (says eurobuild3) - I rescheduled: haskell-path.
[03:31:08] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-hjsonpointer is broken (says nlopc46).
[03:32:32] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-tree-diff is broken (says eurobuild3) - I rescheduled: haskell-trifecta.
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[03:45:41] <buildmaster> i686/shellcheck is broken (says nlopc46).
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[09:45:41] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[09:45:41] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[09:45:43] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> brtln: you're "the arch linux", we're "the other arch linux" and alarm is "arches linux", then?
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[12:06:28] <buildmaster> i686/git-repair is broken (says eurobuild3).
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[12:41:06] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-simple-sendfile is broken (says nlopc46) - I rescheduled: haskell-conduit-extra, haskell-streaming-commons.
[12:54:57] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-http is broken (says rechenknecht) - I rescheduled: haskell-conduit-extra, haskell-simple-sendfile, haskell-wai, haskell-warp.
[13:01:46] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-simple-sendfile is broken (says nlopc46) - I rescheduled: haskell-conduit-extra.
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[13:47:17] <deep42thought> tyzoid: your certificate expired
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[14:04:39] <buildmaster> i686/idris are broken (says nlopc46).
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[18:36:57] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[18:36:57] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[18:36:59] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> I remember the old saying in archlinux: "core" is for the things we need to boot the system and build the system. So meson is now part of core?
[18:37:03] <abaumann> https://packages.archlinux32.org results in "Internal Server Error"
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[19:15:35] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-adjunctions are broken (says eurobuild3).
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[19:40:28] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-hjsonschema is broken (says rechenknecht) - I rescheduled: haskell-simple-sendfile, haskell-wai-app-static, haskell-warp.
[19:46:26] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-simple-sendfile is broken (says rechenknecht) - I rescheduled: haskell-conduit-extra.
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[20:35:29] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[20:35:29] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[20:35:31] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> ahm, what is actually in the package "vulkan-headers" on i486? I thought, we disabled all vulcans?
[20:35:50] <deep42thought> abaumann: yeah, I still haven't figured out what the problem is there
[20:38:36] <deep42thought> uh, no, that's a different problem
[20:41:42] <deep42thought> works again
[20:48:36] <elibrokeit> I would like musl to work with fstack-protector
[20:48:42] <elibrokeit> does that work again?
[20:49:02] <deep42thought> elibrokeit: sry, I have no idea about musl
[20:49:05] * elibrokeit chuckles madly while poking channel
[20:49:09] <deep42thought> I was talking about the statistics website
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[21:10:52] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-mustache is broken (says rechenknecht) - I rescheduled: haskell-adjunctions, haskell-kan-extensions, haskell-lens, haskell-lens-aeson, haskell-wreq.
[21:13:03] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-http-conduit is broken (says nlopc46) - I rescheduled: haskell-simple-sendfile, haskell-warp, haskell-warp-tls.
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[22:22:23] <buildmaster> i686/dub is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[23:06:25] <buildmaster> i686/firefox is broken (says buildknecht2).
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