#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-01-10

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[08:36:19] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:36:19] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:36:21] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> please don't go insane - I think I can't fix you like I can fix the buildmaster
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[09:40:40] <buildmaster> i686/pacman is broken (says rechenknecht).
[09:43:31] <deep42thought> umm, upstream dropped the -fstack-protector-strong from makepkg.conf
[09:43:45] <deep42thought> is this now defaultly enforced by the toolchain?
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[09:48:29] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[09:48:29] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[09:48:30] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> since systemd promises to provide stable network names I have never seen so many hopping names from release to release :-)
[09:48:33] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[09:48:37] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[09:49:04] <abaumann> -fstack-protector-strong, doesn't dropping that suddenly mean you need a major rebuild because all the stack protection is no longer in sync
[09:49:37] <abaumann> https://bugs.archlinux.org
[09:49:38] <phrik> Title: FS#54736 : [pacman] Drop -fstack-protector-strong from makepkg.conf as it'll be enabled in gcc by default (at bugs.archlinux.org)
[09:49:54] <abaumann> But, this is rather old..
[09:50:12] <deep42thought> but it was closed 5 days ago
[09:50:18] <abaumann> aha.
[09:50:44] <deep42thought> ... we're at gcc 8 in the meantime ;-)
[10:26:05] <buildmaster> i686/unison is broken (says eurobuild3).
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[10:35:40] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[10:35:40] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[10:35:40] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> This will make guys happy, I actually checked the knowledge base of bugs first.. ;-)
[10:47:27] <buildmaster> i686/lablgtk2 is broken (says eurobuild3).
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[11:44:07] <abaumann> obviously some operations on the buildmaster have the potential to trash the machine: db-update -w -f i686/testing/lablgtk2 -f i686/testing/unison
[11:44:50] <deep42thought> that's something, that fails?
[11:45:08] <deep42thought> or that's something which repairs something that failed?
[11:45:22] <abaumann> https://bugs.archlinux32.org
[11:45:24] <phrik> Title: FS#59 : unison segfault (at bugs.archlinux32.org)
[11:45:31] <abaumann> some ocaml module dependencies seem to fail.
[11:45:59] <abaumann> the machine is not reacting anymore.. I wonder whether I should just reset it..
[11:46:58] <deep42thought> unison is not connected with ocaml (in terms of dependencies)
[11:47:13] <abaumann> in terms of code very much so.
[11:47:22] <abaumann> it's written in ocaml. :-)
[11:47:35] <abaumann> hah. I have a noVNC terminal
[11:48:40] <abaumann> which is unresponsive too. :-(
[11:49:25] <abaumann> makedepends=('ocaml' 'emacs' 'lablgtk2')
[11:49:29] <abaumann> that sounds about right.
[11:49:34] <deep42thought> yes, my bad
[11:49:50] <deep42thought> I was looking at the "required by" entries of staging/ocaml
[11:49:57] <abaumann> ah. :-)
[11:50:00] <deep42thought> ... which is not required by much, as not much is in staging
[11:50:25] <abaumann> well. I have to attend my cooking now.. I'll give it some time to recover..
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[12:07:14] <deep42thought> elibrokeit: we packaged a new archlinux32-keyring with somewhat updated keys - it would be nice if you could package and sign a corresponding archlinux32-keyring-transition package :-)
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[12:24:20] <abaumann> a 'sync' made the machine somewhat responsive again :-)
[12:25:17] <abaumann> aha. no swap after the reboot..
[12:26:37] <abaumann> now it finishes.. so if some git compacts, db-update and other stuff run in parallel, you really need swap space to avoid trashing.
[12:32:02] <abaumann> unison still fails.. :-(
[12:36:01] <buildmaster> i686/firefox is broken (says rechenknecht).
[12:36:12] <abaumann> yeah, buildmaster, tell me something new..
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[12:56:02] <buildmaster> i686/qca is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[14:23:56] <deep42thought> abaumann: might that explain something? $ du -sh /srv/http/build-logs/error/
[14:23:56] <deep42thought> 11G /srv/http/build-logs/error/
[14:46:32] <abaumann> wow. what the duck! and all in one single directory on an ext-type filesystem.
[14:46:48] <deep42thought> these are build-logs
[14:47:05] <abaumann> yeah. but you are not parsing through them, are yoy?
[14:47:07] <abaumann> *you
[14:47:17] * deep42thought mumbles something
[14:47:25] <abaumann> :-)
[14:47:48] <deep42thought> I set the parsing job from to-be-run every 10 minutes to to-be-run once per hour
[14:47:52] <abaumann> well, we found out that those disks _ARE_ actually slow disks then :-)
[14:47:59] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[14:48:00] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[14:48:21] <deep42thought> maybe we should not parse that stuff alltogether
[14:48:27] <abaumann> maybe another b-tree like filesystem or some hashing directory squidish scheme might be an idea here.
[14:48:39] <deep42thought> in the end: how often does someone look at namcap.html or text-relocation-packages.html?
[14:49:14] <buildmaster> i686/deepin-file-manager is broken (says rechenknecht).
[14:49:14] <abaumann> actually, one ls on /srv/http/build-logs/error takes a while, afterwards accessing all the files is not per se a problem. Going through 11 GB of data might be though.
[14:49:34] <deep42thought> where does apache keep its access log?
[14:49:44] <abaumann> /var/log/httpd/
[14:49:57] <abaumann> that's on the SSD.
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[14:51:17] <deep42thought> ok, we got 5 hits on namcap-outputs.html and 1 on textrelocation-packages.html
[14:51:29] <abaumann> wow! what a traffic. ;-)
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[14:51:48] <deep42thought> I'll just unschedule the parsing for those
[14:51:49] <deep42thought> ...
[14:52:15] <abaumann> btw: I added the swapfile into /etc/fstab to avoid those trashing problems of earlier..
[14:52:35] <deep42thought> good :-)
[14:53:10] <deep42thought> java-openjfx fails for quite some time now :-(
[14:53:15] <abaumann> yep.
[14:54:03] <abaumann> mmh. unison works on every 32-bit machine but on my eeepc. I really wonder what this is all about..
[14:55:15] <abaumann> ok. I'll reinstall all packages on my eeepc, maybe that helps..
[14:55:25] <deep42thought> corrupt file system?
[14:55:39] <abaumann> ..those are the days, when tons of things happen.. just nothing productive..
[14:55:51] <abaumann> it might be my SD card going wild, yes..
[14:56:10] <deep42thought> "und wieder ist ein Tag vollbracht und wieder ist nur Murks gemacht"
[14:56:49] <abaumann> !grab deep42thought
[14:56:51] <phrik> abaumann: Tada!
[14:57:14] <deep42thought> there is a second part: "Und morgen geht's mit großem Fleiße wieder an die selbe ..."
[14:57:21] <abaumann> lol
[14:58:20] <abaumann> ..which brings me back to... torrents.. :-)
[14:58:42] <deep42thought> ah, there is also an image to that saying: http://up.picr.de
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[15:17:24] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: https://git.archlinux32.org
[15:17:28] <phrik> Title: #4 - Update archlinux32-keyring-transition to match non-transition - Archlinux32 Gitea (at git.archlinux32.org)
[15:18:00] <deep42thought> thanks :-)
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[15:27:19] <tyzoid> Ok, mirror should now be syncing properly again
[15:27:24] <tyzoid> still need to fix the archive
[15:30:14] <buildmaster> girls, please have a look at my dirty database
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[15:44:07] <tyzoid> I'm really starting to dislike using xterm.js
[15:45:09] <tyzoid> To open a new pane in vim, it's `<C-w> S`
[15:45:22] <tyzoid> The `<C-w>` is interpreted by the browser as "close tab"
[15:45:35] <tyzoid> And so my terminal gets rekt
[15:45:36] <deep42thought> better than "close browser" <C-q>
[15:45:41] <tyzoid> True
[15:45:53] <tyzoid> Though I've hit that before trying to hit <C-w>
[15:46:06] <deep42thought> lol
[15:49:09] <tyzoid> I usually end up `:map <C-c> <C-w>` since `<C-c>` as copy doesn't work anyway.
[15:49:27] <tyzoid> but then I need to fight the temptation to `<C-w>`
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[15:59:26] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-githash is broken (says rechenknecht).
[16:05:37] <elibrokeit> just use real terminals
[16:05:46] <tyzoid> I would if I could
[16:06:07] <tyzoid> port 22 is firewalled off, so I've got no choice but to use a terminal over websockets
[16:06:20] <deep42thought> there should be ssh over https
[16:06:27] <deep42thought> and I mean real ssh
[16:06:30] <deep42thought> not something in a browser
[16:06:41] <tyzoid> I could definately do that using a websocket proxy
[16:06:55] <tyzoid> but turns out, *that* would violate corporate policy
[16:06:59] <tyzoid> but a websocket terminal wouldn't
[16:07:40] <elibrokeit> lololol
[16:08:15] <tyzoid> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That's where they draw the line
[16:08:24] <tyzoid> And I like my job
[16:08:28] <tyzoid> so I'll stick with it
[16:08:43] <tyzoid> It's usually not much more than a minor annoyance
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[16:45:41] <buildmaster> i686/deepin-session-ui is broken (says buildknecht).
[16:47:19] <buildmaster> i686/deepin-daemon is broken (says rechenknecht).
[16:47:48] <buildmaster> i686/startdde is broken (says eurobuild3).
[16:49:50] <Piraty> hi. is it wise to run pacman -S <pkg> without doing full upgrade before?
[16:50:20] <Piraty> meaning: will that command pull the latest from the mirror or use the one that is compatible to installed state ?
[16:52:00] <rcf> pacman -S is always fine. -Sy is the one to watch out for.
[16:52:21] <rcf> (well, always, unless you ran -Sy beforehand, of course)
[16:53:00] <elibrokeit> Piraty: with just -S you will sync an old version from the same consistent repo as your system
[16:53:16] <elibrokeit> since the db itself remains consistent, there is no issue
[16:53:19] <Piraty> great. thanks
[16:53:29] <Piraty> as long as the mirror(s) still have the old package
[16:53:39] <rcf> The worst that will happen is 404 errors when the old versions disappear from the mirrors.
[16:54:15] <Piraty> i just see them
[16:55:08] <Piraty> unfortunately, i cannot just point to an arclinux32 archive, because i found same package version aren't built on the same tree as the ones AL released back then
[16:55:13] <Piraty> (yes, this thing here is old)
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[17:43:14] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[17:43:14] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[17:43:15] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> because you're a pessimist with no hope - or you're a realist afraid of change ... pick your evil
[17:43:45] <deep42thought> Piraty: you can also have a look at the old archlinux archive - they still have some i686 packages there
[18:00:47] <buildmaster> i686/akonadi-notes are broken (says eurobuild3).
[18:15:19] <Piraty> thanks i will takalook
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[18:52:56] <tyzoid> hey deep42thought: was https://packages.archlinux32.org supposed to be moved with the buildmaster?
[18:52:57] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux 32 - Package Search (at packages.archlinux32.org)
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[19:20:15] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[19:20:15] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[19:20:16] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> works. I receive my personal spam now ;-)
[19:37:30] <abaumann> oh boy: transmission uses an external application to check if the port is open..
[19:37:33] <abaumann> https://github.com
[19:37:35] <phrik> Title: transmission port is closed · Issue #407 · transmission/transmission · GitHub (at github.com)
[19:41:07] <abaumann> Port Forwarding (NAT-PMP) initnatpmp succeeded (0)
[19:41:09] <abaumann> Port Forwarding Stopped
[19:41:30] <abaumann> what the duck: I disabled stupid auto-configuration of routers, why is it still trying to mess with a non-existing router?
[19:48:07] <abaumann> error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/pacman-5.1.2-2/desc: No such file or directory
[19:48:23] <abaumann> anyone also just lost /usr/bin/pacman and the local sync file? happened on the buildmaster.
[19:48:29] <abaumann> really strange..
[19:51:43] <abaumann> ok. I give up. I cannot get this to work..
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[22:32:01] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[22:32:01] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[22:32:01] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> one day, some genius will prove, that all programming languages are isomorphic and there is actually only _one_ compiler
[22:32:50] <deep42thought> tyzoid: it was moved independently: yours was down, I could not log in and you were unreachable, so I shorthandly moved it to my server
[22:33:00] <deep42thought> but I'll be more than happy to move it back :-D
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[22:41:24] <girls> abaumann: do you mean that? ==> ERROR: unable to read /etc/pacman.conf
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