#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-01-23

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[01:02:35] <autofsckk> DepositePirate: sorry i was not here but i installed libtorrent-rasterbar and also updated everything
[01:02:43] <autofsckk> now im going to test
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[02:16:42] <buildmaster> i686/racket is broken (says nlopc43).
[02:50:16] <buildmaster> i686/intel-gpu-tools are broken (says nlopc46).
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[05:21:14] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-deferred-folds are broken (says nlopc43).
[05:36:57] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-shelly is broken (says nlopc46).
[05:38:09] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-sbv is broken (says nlopc43).
[05:52:39] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-config-ini is broken (says nlopc46).
[06:39:21] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-microlens-aeson is broken (says nlopc43).
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[07:35:22] <buildmaster> i686/shellcheck is broken (says nlopc43).
[07:50:44] <buildmaster> i686/python-soupsieve is broken (says nlopc43).
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[08:12:10] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:12:10] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:12:12] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> one day, some genius will prove, that all programming languages are isomorphic and there is actually only _one_ compiler
[08:40:28] <bill-auger> it is - at the centre of the universe there is but one master computor that manages the whole she-bang as a stack machine
[08:40:52] <deep42thought> :-)
[08:41:04] <bill-auger> thats where the one electron in the universe spends most of its time
[08:41:44] <deep42thought> the number of electrons in the universe is an integer?
[08:42:57] <bill-auger> yes 1 - john wheeler famously proposed to richard feynman that there could be one simgle electron that moves vary fast and appears to be everywhere at once
[08:43:26] <deep42thought> that would explain a lot ...
[08:43:45] <bill-auger> like the fastest turing machine tape head imaginable
[08:43:51] <deep42thought> otoh, one can _create_ electrons
[08:44:37] <bill-auger> that just another symboi on the top of the stack
[08:45:03] <deep42thought> yeah, but how do you explain that if you only have on very fast electron ;-)
[08:45:59] <bill-auger> it visits each "place" where it shiuld appear to be repeatedly in a cycle - like the electron bean re-scanning over a CRT
[08:46:41] <bill-auger> i honestly dont know if it was intended seriously or just a philisophical goof - but it is ften quoted
[08:47:16] <deep42thought> yeah, well, probably it's true
[08:47:24] <deep42thought> the total number of electrons in the universe is 0
[08:47:40] <deep42thought> and the electrons we see are only halves of electron-positron pairs
[08:47:46] <deep42thought> which add up to 0 electrons
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[08:47:59] <deep42thought> so you basically see vacuum fluctuations ;-)
[08:48:45] <bill-auger> yes i think that was the implication - it makes the universe a zero-budget expense
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[08:49:26] <deep42thought> otoh, I think, there is not nearly enough observed antimatter to support that theory
[08:49:33] <deep42thought> anyway, enough of this off-topic ... or we might need to register some archlinux32-offtopic channel for that ;-P
[08:50:05] <deep42thought> #archlinux32-quantumfieldtheory or something ;-P
[08:50:42] <bill-auger> ya never know - probably deppthought was a 32bit processor
[08:51:12] <deep42thought> can you implement a 32-bit timer that waits for several million years?
[08:51:24] <deep42thought> ... depends on the clock frequency
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[09:56:06] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-mustache is broken (says nlopc46).
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[10:25:41] <buildmaster> Hi phrik!
[10:25:41] <buildmaster> !rq phrik
[10:27:54] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-snap-core is broken (says nlopc43).
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[10:29:48] <phrik> buildmaster: <phrik> i am bot
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[11:32:12] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-cryptohash-conduit is broken (says eurobuild3) - I rescheduled: haskell-conduit-extra.
[11:37:29] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-swagger2 is broken (says nlopc43).
[11:54:49] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-connection is broken (says eurobuild3) - I rescheduled: haskell-tls.
[11:55:27] <buildmaster> i686/hedgewars are broken (says nlopc46).
[12:06:49] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-http is broken (says eurobuild3) - I rescheduled: haskell-simple-sendfile.
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[13:22:04] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-yesod-test is broken (says nlopc46).
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[13:23:29] <deep42thought> it changed some things in the buildmaster, hopefully the flood of broken haskell builds will cease now ...
[13:23:33] <deep42thought> s/it/I/
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[16:41:18] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[16:41:18] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[16:41:18] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> "Santa Claus brings you bells and presents.. and bugs"
[16:41:27] <abaumann> firefox also seems to have a quantum state: "signal: 15, SIGTERM: termination signal)
[16:41:30] <abaumann> 49:17.40 make[4]: *** [/build/firefox/src/mozilla-unified/config/rules.mk:1046: force-cargo-library-build] Error 101
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[18:12:36] <buildmaster> i686/percona-server is broken (says eurobuild3).
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[18:30:54] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[18:30:54] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[18:30:55] <phrik> buildmaster: * deep42thought listens carefully, but doesn't hear any bells ringing over here
[18:31:01] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[18:31:01] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[18:31:20] <deep42thought> looks like I fixed the haskell problems :-)
[18:31:27] <abaumann> ah. good. :-)
[18:31:41] <deep42thought> what is with firefox you were talking about?
[18:32:05] <abaumann> it doesn't build.
[18:32:43] <abaumann> installing mariadb-clients (10.3.12-2.0) breaks dependency 'mariadb-clients=10.1.37' required by mariadb, mariadb-libs and libmariadbclient are in conflict. Remove libmariadbclient? [y/N] mariadb-libs and libmariadbclient are in conflict
[18:32:47] <abaumann> mmh.
[18:36:41] <deep42thought> probably one of both needs a rebuild or a push?
[18:37:13] <deep42thought> anyway: dinner!
[18:37:13] <abaumann> yeah. I also think, there was a rename involved, mariadb-libs libmariadbclient
[18:37:20] <abaumann> enjoy! :-)
[18:37:26] <deep42thought> thanks!
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[19:17:55] <abaumann> huh. the 2019.01 iso is nice: it has pxe mkinitcpio hooks and it boots on virtualbox.. :-)
[19:18:52] <thePiGre1per> abaumann: there was some time it stopped booting on virtualbox, what changed?
[19:18:56] <thePiGre1per> btw hi
[19:19:03] <abaumann> hi thePiGreper
[19:19:15] <abaumann> well, virtulabox or and the kernel changed.
[19:19:16] <abaumann> so..
[19:19:18] <abaumann> no clue :-)
[19:19:44] <thePiGre1per> I think the iso from june or so worked and then it broke. good to hear it works again
[19:22:55] <abaumann> mmh. OTOH my i486 ISO crashes now.. oh well, that one is VERY OLD anyway..
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[19:46:31] <deep42thought> abaumann: how do you build the i486 iso?
[19:46:38] <deep42thought> should we add that to archlinux32 somehow
[19:46:39] <deep42thought> ?
[19:46:46] <deep42thought> umm I meant archiso32
[19:54:11] <buildmaster> i686/mit-scheme is broken (says nlopc46).
[19:59:01] <thePiGre1per> hi, can you help me with staging-i686-build and cia, how can I pass makepkg --skippgpcheck to it? or even better where are the instructions?
[19:59:25] <deep42thought> staging-i686-build -- -- --skippgpcheck
[19:59:37] <thePiGre1per> two set of dashes?
[19:59:41] <deep42thought> yes
[19:59:54] <thePiGre1per> what do you put between the first two dashes?
[20:00:13] <deep42thought> before the first goes to archbuild, before the second goes to ... um, I keep forgetting ... and behind the second goes to makepkg
[20:00:29] <deep42thought> let me check the source
[20:01:00] <thePiGre1per> hm, ok. do you know where are instructions. I can read the source, but Id prefer to just read a manual. doesnt exist, right?
[20:01:23] <deep42thought> I think, there is no manual for archbuild
[20:01:53] <deep42thought> middle goes to makechrootpkg
[20:02:11] <deep42thought> so it's: archbuild $archbuild_args -- $makechrootpkg_args
[20:02:28] <deep42thought> and this calls "makechrootpkg $makechrootpkg_args (and other args)"
[20:02:52] <deep42thought> so if you put "$makechrootpkg_args" == "$a -- $b"
[20:03:04] <thePiGre1per> well, at least the archbuild has a help with the complete information(I hope), staging-i686-build doesnt even show the two set of dashes info in its --help
[20:03:18] <deep42thought> the $a is interpreted by makechrootpkg and $b goes to what makechrootpkg calls (=makepkg)
[20:03:25] <thePiGre1per> thx
[20:03:32] <abaumann> deep42thought: basically the same way as the i686, I think.
[20:03:45] <deep42thought> but you build on an i486 host?
[20:04:10] <abaumann> I had a special one, which was using syslinux and a filesystem directly on the ISO without reading the root file system into RAM, for low-memory situations, but that one is not ready.
[20:04:22] <abaumann> no. I built it on a x86_64, I think
[20:04:48] <deep42thought> so the only crux is to install i486 packages into the iso, then?
[20:04:53] <abaumann> yes.
[20:05:09] <abaumann> I even think, I tooch archiso32 and just hacked the architecture..
[20:05:17] <abaumann> *took
[20:06:20] <deep42thought> hmm
[20:06:53] <deep42thought> we should probably follow eli's advice and not fork archiso (anymore) but merely provide separate configuration files for dual, i686 and now also i486 isos
[20:07:43] <abaumann> maybe, but don't we have to move some things upstream then?
[20:10:13] <deep42thought> I'm not sure
[20:10:20] <deep42thought> we mostly have a different build.sh
[20:10:23] <deep42thought> and packages lists
[20:10:44] <deep42thought> and archiso_pxe_32_inc.cfg and archiso_sys_32_inc.cfg
[20:10:56] <deep42thought> ah, our pacman-init.service differs, too
[20:11:02] <deep42thought> but besides that, all files are identical
[20:16:56] <abaumann> I should really try to build them once myself.. and maybe try again with torrents..
[20:17:38] <abaumann> *abaumann: "..argh, torrent, my archenemis"
[20:17:48] <deep42thought> hehe
[20:18:54] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-snap-server is broken (says nlopc43).
[20:19:32] <buildmaster> i686/deepin-daemon is broken (says nlopc43).
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[22:46:41] <ahuillet> hi
[22:46:48] <ahuillet> potentially stupid question, but warning: cannot resolve "mariadb-clients=10.1.37", a dependency of "mariadb"
[22:46:51] <ahuillet> does that ring a bell?
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