#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-01-30
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[02:08:42] <buildmaster> i686/teamspeak3-server is broken (says buildknecht).
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[03:36:00] <buildmaster> girls, please have a look at my dirty database
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[06:59:31] <buildmaster> i686/dbeaver-plugin-sshj is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[08:55:22] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:55:22] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:55:26] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> ahm, what is actually in the package "vulkan-headers" on i486? I thought, we disabled all vulcans?
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[10:50:56] <buildmaster> i686/firefox is broken (says nlopc46).
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[12:29:13] <buildmaster> i686/vault is broken (says nlopc46).
[13:21:28] <buildmaster> i686/intel-media-driver is broken (says nlopc46).
[13:31:52] <deep42thought> do I see that right, that noone can use this package^ anyways as it is for "broadwell+ iGPUs"?
[13:46:00] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-yesod-auth is broken (says nlopc46) - I rescheduled: haskell-authenticate, haskell-yesod-form, haskell-yesod-persistent.
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[14:31:17] <buildmaster> i686/hledger-web is broken (says nlopc46) - I rescheduled: haskell-yesod, haskell-yesod-static.
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[19:34:53] <noctambulo> why i get xmodmap can only be used with completion when trying to use it in the archiso?
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[20:40:43] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[20:40:43] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[20:40:44] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> The future looks bright, no window managers working, Xorg not working, sound and video stuff "optimized", so not working. Gives us a nice text-only distribution. :-)
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[20:43:27] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[20:43:27] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[20:43:28] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> please don't go insane - I think I can't fix you like I can fix the buildmaster
[20:43:31] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[20:43:36] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[20:43:46] <abaumann> "..he has been summoned.." ;-)
[20:43:58] <deep42thought> :-D
[20:43:59] <abaumann> I have i486 problems, still.
[20:44:16] <abaumann> pacman insists downloading i686 packges into the i486 chroot
[20:44:26] <abaumann> I not a big fan of Architecture=auto
[20:44:36] <deep42thought> you have that?
[20:44:39] <abaumann> it usually automatically fails. :-)
[20:44:42] <deep42thought> or do you have arch=i486?
[20:44:50] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[20:44:51] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
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[20:46:00] <abaumann> pacman-staging-32.conf and pacman-staging.conf just differ by the mirrorlist32/mirrorlist difference. Could maybe be done with M4 in the Makefile?
[20:46:10] <deep42thought> hmm, looks like I cannot ssh into my i486 build slaves at all O.o
[20:46:22] <deep42thought> yes
[20:46:25] <deep42thought> good idea
[20:46:39] <abaumann> just check, what your /var/cache/archbuild32 contains..
[20:46:41] <deep42thought> also having i686 and i486 specific pacman.confs might be a good idea
[20:46:49] <abaumann> true
[20:47:10] <deep42thought> hmm, I can ssh into bs1 (after some delay)
[20:47:19] <deep42thought> but bs0 seems unresponsive
[20:47:39] <deep42thought> I have no i686 packages in /var/cache/archbuild32 on bs1
[20:47:49] <abaumann> ah. ok.
[20:48:03] <abaumann> I wiped my slave in /usr/local and reinstalled from devtools32, master
[20:48:05] <deep42thought> but I also have Architecture=i486 on it :-D
[20:48:13] <abaumann> you did that manually?
[20:48:15] <deep42thought> yes
[20:48:18] <abaumann> ah.
[20:48:54] <abaumann> otherwise we must add a install ARCH variable in the Makefile when we deploy the devtools.
[20:49:06] <abaumann> but, this way we cannot switch architectures on the same machine.
[20:49:22] <deep42thought> no, multiple pacman.confs seem totally fine to me
[20:49:28] <deep42thought> as long as they are auto-generated
[20:49:35] <deep42thought> btw: also the order of the repos differ
[20:49:38] <abaumann> ah. ok.
[20:49:41] <deep42thought> but I would prefer our order
[20:49:52] <abaumann> ah. the order differs.. right..
[20:49:59] <abaumann> *abaumann is pondering..
[20:50:03] <deep42thought> e.g. "it will break archlinux32 slaves if you use the other order"
[20:50:49] <deep42thought> oh, and i486 has the additional [bootstrap] repo (currently)
[20:51:10] <abaumann> also. true. totally forgot about that one.. yeah..
[20:51:32] <deep42thought> I'm not familiar with M4, but the difference is really just:
[20:51:39] <deep42thought> mirrorlist <-> mirrorlist32
[20:51:45] <deep42thought> [bootstrap]
[20:52:02] <deep42thought> and wether staging-testing-stable is the outer or the inner loop
[20:52:13] <deep42thought> and core-extra-community the inner or outer
[20:52:24] <abaumann> I have some faint memories - or rather shudders -- about M4, autoconf macros - yack
[20:52:36] <deep42thought> why not use python?
[20:52:46] <deep42thought> ;-P
[20:52:47] <abaumann> *shush*
[20:53:21] <abaumann> nobody wrote an operating system in python yet?
[20:53:37] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[20:53:38] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[20:53:52] <deep42thought> I thought, python _is_ an operating system
[20:54:20] <abaumann> well. with a C micro-kernel running a Python interpreter, this would work..
[20:55:00] <abaumann> ..just that Python is a big blob of language and libraries.. usually it's better to have something like Lua, where the interpreter is really minimal and separated from the runtime..
[20:55:24] <abaumann> OTOH, it has been proven to be doable with Java.. so.. :-)
[20:56:41] <deep42thought> also the makepkg-*.confs should be auto-generated
[20:59:10] <deep42thought> proposal: {makepkg,pacman-{staging,extra,...}}-{i486,i686,x86_64}.conf autogenerated from {makepkg,pacman-{staging,extra,...}}.conf.in
[20:59:23] <abaumann> yeah. sounds good.
[20:59:32] <elibrokeit> abaumann: in this case m4 macros is really a fancy way of saying: sed "s/@ARCH@/$arch/" pacman-extra-32.conf.in > pacman-extra-$arch.conf
[20:59:44] <elibrokeit> sed > m4
[20:59:50] <elibrokeit> any dat
[20:59:52] <elibrokeit> *day
[21:00:02] <abaumann> that's true. but m4 is already used for includes, so I thought..
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[21:13:27] <deep42thought> we could generate the files from the upstream configs
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[22:07:28] <buildmaster> i686/beats are broken (says rechenknecht).
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[22:20:54] <buildmaster> i686/logstash is broken (says nlopc46).
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