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[09:21:02] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[09:21:02] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[09:21:03] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> So I prefer cheap bootstrapping methods over the correct ones :-)
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[09:28:42] <abaumann> hum: fatal: not something we can merge in .git/FETCH_HEAD: d42bf386cd82a67d94://git.archlinux.org
[09:28:58] <abaumann> my repo on eurobuld3 seems broken..
[09:32:29] <abaumann> new repo.. new luck.. :-)
[09:55:02] <abaumann> mmh. just trying to get an AMD Ryzen machine serving as additional build slave..
[09:55:12] <abaumann> ..modern hardware is quite confusing. :-)
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[10:07:46] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[10:07:46] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[10:07:48] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> brtln: you're "the arch linux", we're "the other arch linux" and alarm is "arches linux", then?
[10:10:21] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
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[10:10:29] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann
[10:10:56] <deep42thought> you try to get a big machine from work?
[10:11:30] <abaumann> not really
[10:11:42] <abaumann> I tried to see what's currently cheap on sale
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[10:12:33] <deep42thought> cheap and silent?
[10:12:44] <abaumann> yeah. sort of a challenge, it seems..
[10:14:29] <abaumann> on ricardo.ch there is a guy 200 meters aways from my place selling the whole server room with old machines..
[10:14:34] <abaumann> ..I was tempted.
[10:14:47] <deep42thought> he is selling the room?
[10:14:55] <abaumann> aeh.. some 6-7 servers
[10:14:57] <deep42thought> this sounds like it doesn't necessarily need to be silent
[10:15:08] <abaumann> no. it sounds very loud.
[10:16:21] <abaumann> https://www.youtube.com
[10:16:22] <phrik> Title: DIY Computer Case - The Ultimate Silent PC (CLOUD UNIT) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
[10:16:35] <abaumann> neat. a very nice idea of a case.. sadly not on the market.
[10:36:49] <deep42thought> maybe you should sound-isolate the whole cabinet - then you don't mind about how loud any of the servers is
[10:43:50] <abaumann> sound isolating a cabinet usually means you have to close the cabinet.. which brings heat problems..
[10:44:24] <deep42thought> :-(
[10:45:32] <abaumann> my last PC I actually built from scratch was my QNAP NAS..
[10:47:00] <abaumann> argh. AMD is confusing. Is the Ryzen now serving as GPU for the onboard graphic or do I need an addition graphic card just to see the GUI EFI?
[10:48:35] <abaumann> mmh. ok. I need a cheapo PCIe graphic card..
[10:49:09] <deep42thought> you're planning for a server or a desktop pc?
[10:49:25] <abaumann> rather desktop
[10:49:37] <deep42thought> ok, then you need the graphic
[10:49:37] <abaumann> server hardware tends to be either load or underpowered.
[10:50:39] <abaumann> mmh: WOL and PXE. good. :-)
[10:50:52] <abaumann> the board.. I mean.
[10:51:07] <deep42thought> no hardware-hack needed to add wol functionality ;-)
[10:51:25] <abaumann> yeah. my Arduino board by the way was dead on arrival.
[10:51:35] <deep42thought> oh
[10:51:43] <deep42thought> what a pity
[10:51:44] <abaumann> most likely the RAM was faulty. I coulds upload any code to the thing.
[10:51:47] <abaumann> I get a new one. :-)
[10:51:58] <deep42thought> ah, good :-)
[10:52:06] <abaumann> till then, breadboarding..
[10:52:17] <abaumann> and repetition of the theory. *mmh*
[10:52:20] <deep42thought> I don't really like bread boards
[10:52:29] <abaumann> yeah. they are finicky.
[10:52:34] <deep42thought> soldering is so much more stable
[10:52:35] <abaumann> but quite handy for prototyping
[10:52:56] <abaumann> I would never do something productive with a breadboard
[10:53:03] <deep42thought> you can solder 3d circuits - I've no one seen doing that with bread boards
[10:53:35] <deep42thought> yeah, sure bread boards are prohibited for production, but I also dislike them for testing
[10:53:56] <abaumann> well. I have no practical experience, so no bias. :-)
[10:54:07] <abaumann> why are all graphic card fans so crappy?
[10:54:20] <deep42thought> why do they come with a fan in the first place??
[10:54:21] * rcf inserts excessive parasitic inductance and capacitance into the channel
[10:54:32] <deep42thought> lol
[10:54:37] <abaumann> :-)
[10:55:04] <deep42thought> rcf you just detuned and are now receiving a different program - please execute /join #debian
[10:55:34] <abaumann> !grab rcf
[10:55:34] <phrik> abaumann: Tada!
[10:55:37] <abaumann> !grab deep42thought
[10:55:37] <phrik> abaumann: Tada!
[10:55:51] <deep42thought> these quotes should be combined
[10:56:07] <abaumann> true
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[11:14:00] <buildmaster> i686/alacritty is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[11:56:48] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[11:56:48] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[11:56:48] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> So, very soon the next build tool will be written in go, thus requiring packaging all unit tests of go, just because nobody is able to split the package into things worth deploying and things used during development?
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[11:57:09] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[11:57:09] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[11:57:09] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> who would have thought digital books burn too. ;-)
[12:39:06] <abaumann> oeh.. 'gcc7' disappeared? That's really sad.. I need it for rust bootstrapping.. a well.. I build my own.. :-)
[12:39:37] <abaumann> ah, it got into the AUR. ok.
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[13:15:07] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-language-javascript is broken (says nlopc43).
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[13:23:23] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[13:23:23] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[13:23:24] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> deep42thought: you cannot break cmake, it's already broken.. ;-)
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[13:37:32] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[13:37:32] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[13:37:32] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> since systemd promises to provide stable network names I have never seen so many hopping names from release to release :-)
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[15:06:10] <buildmaster> pentium4/csfml is broken (says nlopc43).
[15:08:57] <buildmaster> i686/csfml is broken (says nlopc43).
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[15:22:45] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: shouldn't nspawn handle this? https://git.archlinux32.org
[15:22:46] <phrik> Title: archbuild.in: umount -l left-over mounts inside the to-be-deleted chroot · 4cadc4578b - Archlinux32 Gitea (at git.archlinux32.org)
[15:23:11] <deep42thought> it should, but sometimes it doesnt
[15:23:27] <deep42thought> I guess, it's the "-l" which it does not
[15:24:43] <deep42thought> at least, several times I had a build slave with un-deletable staging-i686/root/ due to still-mounted run/, etc.
[15:41:39] <elibrokeit> that's odd and I wonder why it happens.
[15:42:07] <deep42thought> because the computer it runs on is overloaded and it fails to unmount certain things
[15:42:19] <deep42thought> (that's the reason why I stopped all build slaves on nlopc46)
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[16:05:14] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[16:05:14] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[16:05:16] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> worth a try: apply brute force till proven wrong. :-)
[16:05:25] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[16:05:35] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[16:08:55] <deep42thought> we seem to lag behind with some perl-* packages and I have no idea what's the reason
[16:09:03] <abaumann> mmh
[16:09:07] <deep42thought> perl-datetime has some unmet dependencies which are not blocked by anything
[16:09:21] <deep42thought> I prioritized it, hopefully we build it now ...
[16:09:23] <abaumann> perl-inline-java is blocked due to java
[16:09:34] <abaumann> ok
[16:09:54] <deep42thought> perl-data-optlist should be buildable ...
[16:10:04] <deep42thought> I think, we really have too few build slaves :-(
[16:10:42] <abaumann> depending on how well I ordered that machine (and given some rusty skills in hardware assembly) this problem will hopefully disappear soon.
[16:10:57] <deep42thought> what did you order?
[16:11:08] <abaumann> some ryzen thingy, around 1000 bucks
[16:11:18] * deep42thought is curious
[16:11:20] <abaumann> and three BIG fans
[16:11:26] <abaumann> aeh..
[16:11:29] <abaumann> ..hang on.
[16:11:31] <deep42thought> which hopefully rotate slow :-)
[16:11:42] <abaumann> that's the idea.
[16:11:55] <abaumann> mmh. can I share the order list..
[16:19:06] <abaumann> disks habe ich noch auf vorrat, leise (sind backup fuer NAS, aber da haben halten die platten jetzt schon ueber 10 jahre!)
[16:19:42] <abaumann> *abamann swears becease he is obviously too dump do use the right chat terminal
[16:19:54] <abaumann> *because
[16:19:56] <abaumann> *dumb
[16:20:09] <abaumann> * abaumann thinks it's too hot for his brain to work properly
[16:20:24] <abaumann> perl-data-optlist builds on pentium4
[16:20:35] <abaumann> at least manually
[16:23:58] <deep42thought> oh, I need to pick up the kids O.o ... forgot the time ...
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[16:24:41] <abaumann> i686 build also, ok, cu
[16:29:27] <buildmaster> pentium4/perl-data-optlist is broken (says nlopc43).
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[18:25:18] <traace> 39°c ambient air temp. over here, workstation blows in my face. What a great day :D
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[19:53:22] <buildmaster> pentium4/java8-openjdk is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[21:00:19] <girls> abaumann: it's an "any" package
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