#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-07-01
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[02:42:39] <buildmaster> pentium4/qt5-webkit is broken (says buildknecht2).
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[04:34:13] <buildmaster> i686/qt5-webengine is broken (says eurobuild6-3).
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[05:12:59] <buildmaster> i686/qt5-webkit is broken (says eurobuild6-3).
[05:51:01] <buildmaster> pentium4/vtk is broken (says eurobuild6-1).
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[08:39:34] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:39:34] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:39:35] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> it was too slow - they don't offer that speed anymore, so they rounded down to 0
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[11:31:07] <buildmaster> i686/vtk is broken (says eurobuild6-3).
[11:58:49] <buildmaster> pentium4/python-aws-xray-sdk is broken (says buildknecht2).
[12:44:05] * buildmaster refuses to blacklist 4017 packages.
[12:44:05] <buildmaster> archlinux32: e9d772a23bce0cec31278f31863e714ddd00399e -> 88e8230feaa322f71f4a9080e0614ab7711d04b6
[13:15:05] <deep42thought> yeah, I added i486/ghc to the blacklist - and somehow the buildmaster took that as opportunity to blacklist all haskell-* packages
[13:27:01] <deep42thought> abaumann: do you think, you can get something running on a i486 with 4MB ram?
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[15:39:01] <buildmaster> i686/kak-lsp is broken (says eurobuild6-5).
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[16:25:39] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: admittedly ghc is needed for all of Haskell ;)
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[17:17:45] <buildmaster> i686/varnish is broken (says eurobuild6-3).
[17:21:32] <buildmaster> i686/calibre is broken (says rechenknecht).
[17:23:22] <buildmaster> pentium4/varnish is broken (says eurobuild3).
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[17:25:35] <buildmaster> !rq buildmaster
[17:25:36] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
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[19:15:16] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[19:15:17] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[19:15:18] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> windows suggests swap on external usb sticks :-)
[19:15:34] <deep42thought> elibrokeit: yes, but the ghc for i486 is not needed for haskell on i686 and pentium4 (I hope)
[19:16:44] <deep42thought> and that was exactly my intention: blacklist all haskell-* stuff on i486 - because ghc is not yet bootstrapped
[19:19:34] <elibrokeit> So what you mean is that you blacklisted i486/ghc and it took the opportunity to blacklist all architectures?
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[19:29:39] <deep42thought> yes
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[19:46:38] <T`aZ> urxvt: error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory :'(
[20:09:23] <deep42thought> T`aZ: this is on pentium4? or i686?
[20:11:23] <buildmaster> i686/tpm2-tools are broken (says nlopc43).
[20:13:04] <deep42thought> do you have perl installed?
[20:15:06] <deep42thought> hmm, I see the same on i686, it seems
[20:15:36] <deep42thought> libperl.so => None
[20:16:06] <deep42thought> hmmm, libperl.so is installed in a non-standard directory - which seems to be ok on pentium4, but not i686
[20:16:37] <deep42thought> on pentium4:
[20:16:37] <deep42thought> libperl.so => /usr/lib/perl5/5.30/core_perl/CORE/libperl.so
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[20:23:51] <T`aZ> let me reinstall the pentium4 version
[20:24:11] <deep42thought> oh, my test box has [testing] enabled, but not [community-testing]
[20:24:14] <deep42thought> ... interesting :-/
[20:24:55] <deep42thought> let's check rxvt-unicode-9.22-9.0 (instead of 9.22-7.4)
[20:25:27] <deep42thought> libperl.so => /usr/lib/perl5/5.30/core_perl/CORE/libperl.so
[20:25:31] <deep42thought> _that_ looks ok
[20:25:36] <deep42thought> I'll move it
[20:25:58] <T`aZ> nop it was already p4
[20:26:03] <T`aZ> ha :)
[20:26:36] <deep42thought> probably rxvt-unicode-9.22-7.4-pentium4.pkg.tar.xz, right?
[20:27:52] <T`aZ> yes that's the one i have currently
[20:28:07] <deep42thought> try updating
[20:28:14] <deep42thought> I moved -9.0 into stable
[20:30:00] <T`aZ> will try that in 2-3h (movie time!), will get back if it doesn't solve it, thanks a lot already !
[20:30:56] <deep42thought> np, enjoy your movie :-)
[20:35:53] <elibrokeit> Urxvt and anything else linking to libperl.so should be using rpath.
[20:37:33] <deep42thought> elibrokeit: I don't know what that means, but updating rxvt-unicode solved the issue (it was literally the only package from [community-testing] on my box)
[20:38:19] <elibrokeit> !ddg search rpath
[20:38:21] <phrik> elibrokeit: rPath - Wikipedia - rPath, Inc. was a technology company based in Raleigh, North Carolina that developed technology to automate the process of constructing (or packaging), deploying and updating software. rPath modeled and managed components and dependencies under version control. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPath>, gcc - I don't understand -Wl,-rpath -Wl, - Stack Overflow - For convenience I added the relevant (3 more messages)
[20:38:36] <elibrokeit> !more
[20:38:36] <phrik> elibrokeit: manpages below. My (mis)understanding first: If I need to separate options with ,, that means that the second -Wl is not another option because it comes before , which means it is an argument to the -rpath option.. I don't understand how -rpath can have a -Wl,. argument! <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6562403/i-dont-understand-wl-rpath-wl>, RPATH, RUNPATH, and dynamic linking - blog.tremily.us - RPATH, (2 more messages)
[20:38:50] <elibrokeit> !more
[20:38:50] <phrik> elibrokeit: RUNPATH, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH. The current state of affairs is well summarized on the Debian wiki, which lists the library search path: the RPATH binary header (set at build-time) of the library causing the lookup (if any) the RPATH binary header (set at build-time) of the executable; the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable (set at run-time) <http://blog.tremily.us/posts/rpath/>, The why and how of RPATH - (1 more message)
[20:39:35] <deep42thought> who sets that variable?
[20:41:42] <elibrokeit> It's a gcc command line flag
[20:42:02] <deep42thought> ah, so it's something /inside/ the binaries
[20:42:04] <elibrokeit> Sometimes achieved via technologies like pkg-config ;)
[20:42:15] <elibrokeit> Yep, it's an ELF file header
[20:42:41] <deep42thought> I believe, currently the database does not extract that information :-/
[20:42:42] <elibrokeit> It's like LD_LIBRARY_PATH except it doesn't require ugly wrapper scripts ;)
[20:42:57] <deep42thought> it only sees "links against libperl.so"
[20:43:21] <elibrokeit> Does your database extract that LD variable from shell script wrappers?
[20:43:44] <deep42thought> it extracts the "NEEDED" libraries from `objdump -x`
[20:43:57] <deep42thought> RPATH /usr/lib/perl5/5.30/core_perl/CORE
[20:44:01] <elibrokeit> ... also yes, it's exceedingly annoying that Perl decides to use rpath with versioned directories instead of sonames.
[20:44:05] <deep42thought> we should probably also just take that :-)
[20:44:39] <elibrokeit> I'm not really aware of any software other than Perl that does this.
[20:44:47] <deep42thought> (I was referring to the RPATH line extracted from `objdump -x`)
[20:45:02] <deep42thought> sry for the confusion, I'm a slow typist
[20:45:11] <elibrokeit> The usual use of rpath is so that a program can rely on its own internal libraries in private libdirs
[20:46:00] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: yeah, I drew that conclusion, fortunately. ;) You may be a slow typer, but I adapt to things like that by becoming a fast thinker.
[20:46:52] <deep42thought> !grab elibrokeit
[20:46:52] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[20:47:22] <elibrokeit> Slow typer indeed. :P
[20:47:35] <deep42thought> I was afk ...
[20:47:39] <deep42thought> wife's order ;-)
[20:47:53] <elibrokeit> Ah, good excuse. You're off the hook.
[20:47:57] <deep42thought> :-D
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[23:52:07] <buildmaster> pentium4/varnish is broken (says buildknecht2).