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[04:12:33] <tyzoid> abaumann: Looks like you encrypted it with my master key, which I keep offline. Could you resend it as encrypted with my normal key 3B08 EFC6 BA97 4CFC?
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[08:02:42] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[08:02:42] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[08:02:43] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> people tend to rewrite things in new hip languages, just because they are too lazy to read old code
[08:03:16] <abaumann> tyzoid: mmh. I really start to hate all this mail and encyrption stuff. mutt doesn't even ask me what key to take, it just takes the master key
[08:11:01] * abaumann sets a crypt-hook to force a certain PGP key to be used
[08:12:30] <buildmaster> pentium4/intel-compute-runtime is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
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[08:17:15] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:17:15] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:17:16] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> db-update --fuck-up
[08:17:20] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[08:17:58] <deep42thought> oh, I'm glad to hear mutt+gpg is not perfect, too - I always considered switching from alpine to mutt due to better gpg integration
[08:18:35] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[08:18:59] <abaumann> I consider switching to Outlook and Windows ;-)
[08:19:05] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[08:19:05] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[08:19:21] <deep42thought> does windows10 run on ia32?
[08:19:21] <abaumann> damn those quotes ;-
[08:19:24] <abaumann> )
[08:19:35] <abaumann> I think yes
[08:19:50] <abaumann> Microsoft can not afford to trop 32-bit as fast as Linux :->
[08:19:55] <abaumann> *drop
[08:19:59] <deep42thought> you have the right to remain silent, whatever you say may be recorded and quoted indefinitely without your further permission
[08:20:19] <abaumann> !grab deep42thought
[08:20:19] <phrik> abaumann: Tada!
[08:20:26] <abaumann> counter-grabbing
[08:21:04] <abaumann> let's see, at least pentium4 should have a new firefox now..
[08:29:06] <abaumann> yep, looking good, I push firefox 72.0 to stable. i686 is another story though. :-(
[08:32:38] <deep42thought> who needs graphical browsers anyways?
[08:33:37] <abaumann> I really see a market here to program a simple browser which is 100 times faster than firefox, guish and working without 2 GB of RAM.
[08:33:58] <deep42thought> I'd call it "html2x"
[08:34:20] <abaumann> the world wide web turned bad with the advent of Javascript and CSS
[08:34:39] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[08:34:39] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[08:34:40] <abaumann> yeah, I really like netsurf on the Thinpad 240X
[08:34:46] <abaumann> it has no Javascript though
[08:34:54] <deep42thought> I don't like js either
[08:35:09] <deep42thought> running noscript on maximum setting almost all the time
[08:35:19] <deep42thought> but the sites become more and more crippled ....
[08:35:30] <abaumann> don't get me wrong. it's nice to be able to script things, but a) Javascript is a terrible language IMHO
[08:35:46] <abaumann> and b) there is no need to draw static text with dynamic scripting (not to mention fonts)
[08:35:55] <deep42thought> my problem is mainly b
[08:36:01] <abaumann> and from a security point scripting is a nightmare
[08:36:12] <abaumann> I forgot to add d)
[08:36:27] <abaumann> too many uneducated people programming interfaces with some fancy frameworks
[08:37:02] <abaumann> there is still Gopher. ;-)
[08:39:18] <abaumann> epson-inkjet-printer-escpr?
[08:39:39] <abaumann> long dead upstream
[08:39:50] <abaumann> maybe we need a garbage collector for packages?
[08:40:03] <deep42thought> mom
[08:40:13] <deep42thought> https://archlinux32.org
[08:40:14] <phrik> Title: List of packages to be deleted (at archlinux32.org)
[08:40:36] <deep42thought> hmm, it's not marked as to-be-deleted
[08:41:54] <deep42thought> the nit-picker - where is he actually? - could check, whether the packages in the database still exist upstream
[08:42:16] <deep42thought> ah, right, I shut him down, because he was noisy about the keys
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[08:42:49] <buildmaster> Hi nit-picker!
[08:42:49] <buildmaster> !rq nit-picker
[08:42:49] <phrik> buildmaster: <nit-picker> abaumann: but there are only 18 "intermediate" versions
[08:43:34] <nit-picker> signing key 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A (from Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch-packages@eckner.net>
[08:43:34] <nit-picker> Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch@eckner.net>) for package vim-spell-cs-20190731-1.0-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2020-04-08 (in 88 < 100 days).
[08:44:20] <abaumann> yeah, that's a little bit early announment. ;-)
[08:44:33] <deep42thought> well, we need time to populate the new key
[08:44:42] <nit-picker> signing key 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A (from Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch-packages@eckner.net>
[08:44:42] <nit-picker> Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch@eckner.net>) for package at-3.2.1-1.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2020-04-08 (in 88 < 100 days).
[08:44:56] <deep42thought> my problem is, that it complains for every *package*, not every *key*
[08:44:57] <deep42thought> ...
[08:45:10] <abaumann> ah.
[08:45:45] <nit-picker> signing key 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A (from Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch-packages@eckner.net>
[08:45:45] <nit-picker> Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch@eckner.net>) for package lbreakout2-2.6.5-2.0-i686.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2020-04-08 (in 88 < 100 days).
[08:46:12] * buildmaster goes insane.
[08:46:37] <deep42thought> damn, delete-packages made him crazy
[08:46:49] <nit-picker> signing key 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A (from Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch-packages@eckner.net>
[08:46:49] <nit-picker> Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch@eckner.net>) for package soundtouch-2.1.2-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2020-04-08 (in 88 < 100 days).
[08:46:57] <abaumann> lol
[08:47:50] <nit-picker> signing key 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A (from Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch-packages@eckner.net>
[08:47:50] <nit-picker> Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch@eckner.net>) for package python-toposort-1.5-4.1-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2020-04-08 (in 88 < 100 days).
[08:48:59] <nit-picker> signing key 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A (from Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch-packages@eckner.net>
[08:48:59] <nit-picker> Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch@eckner.net>) for package python-pillow-6.2.1-1.1-i486.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2020-04-08 (in 88 < 100 days).
[08:49:23] <deep42thought> nit-picker: stupid bot - I just extended that key!
[08:49:43] <deep42thought> ah, wait, it takes it straight from our keyring package, so I need to bump that one, too ...
[08:50:00] <nit-picker> signing key 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A (from Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch-packages@eckner.net>
[08:50:00] <nit-picker> Erich Eckner (just to sign arch packages) <arch@eckner.net>) for package bsdiff-4.3-9.2-i686.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2020-04-08 (in 88 < 100 days).
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[08:50:25] <deep42thought> key-not-yet-updated-on-keyserver-error
[08:54:22] <deep42thought> wtf??? there is "wine-gecko" _and_ "wine_gecko"?
[08:55:02] <abaumann> I had the impression it was just wine-gecko and something is normalizing the _ to an -
[08:55:12] <abaumann> at least that's what https://www.archlinux.org does
[08:55:14] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux - Package Search (at www.archlinux.org)
[08:55:40] <deep42thought> the pkgbase is wine-gecko and the pkgname is wine_gecko, it seems
[08:55:42] <abaumann> wine_gecko was a mis-namer
[08:55:49] <abaumann> https://git.archlinux.org
[08:55:50] <phrik> Title: PKGBUILD\trunk - svntogit/community.git - Git clone of the 'community' repository (at git.archlinux.org)
[08:55:53] <deep42thought> ah, no
[08:55:54] <abaumann> pkgname=wine-gecko
[08:55:55] <deep42thought> hmm, strange
[08:56:00] <abaumann> replaces=('wine_gecko')
[08:56:04] <abaumann> but also
[08:56:06] <abaumann> provides=('wine_gecko')
[08:56:09] <abaumann> which is weird
[08:56:18] <abaumann> maybe some old stuff still depending on the old name?
[08:56:33] <deep42thought> maybe the package was renamed from wine_gecko to wine-gecko
[08:56:36] <deep42thought> and thus the provides
[08:56:41] <deep42thought> and the old package in the database
[08:56:42] <abaumann> ah. this could be.
[08:57:11] <abaumann> it's nice to have those MSIs installed via package manager and not on the first startup of wine getting a funny download dialog
[08:57:18] <abaumann> that's the reason for this package, I assume
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[09:00:40] <deep42thought> abaumann: did you sign all the build keys with your new master key?
[09:01:05] <abaumann> with build keys you mean the (sign) keys used on the slaves?
[09:01:09] <deep42thought> yes
[09:01:17] <abaumann> probably not
[09:01:25] <deep42thought> I should have written "packager keys", more precisely
[09:01:53] * abaumann sighs: not gpg madness again..
[09:02:47] <deep42thought> sry :-/
[09:03:12] <abaumann> I undestand now why Debian has a nice page about how to sign packages, how to create keys, etc.
[09:05:05] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
[09:06:27] <abaumann> ok. did that
[09:06:32] <abaumann> and I send the key
[09:06:36] <abaumann> *sent
[09:06:54] <deep42thought> upload it to master@buildmaster.archlinux32.org's gpg keyring
[09:07:01] <abaumann> ah. ok.
[09:07:07] <deep42thought> that's, where I pull those keys for the archlinux32-keyring from, too
[09:08:35] <abaumann> 16194A82231E9EF823562181C8E8F5A0AF9BA7E7
[09:08:39] <abaumann> I hope that worked
[09:08:57] <deep42thought> key is not fully trusted: 16194A82231E9EF823562181C8E8F5A0AF9BA7E7 abaumann
[09:08:57] <deep42thought> gpg: key "5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A" not found: No public key
[09:08:57] <deep42thought> key is not fully trusted: 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A deep42though
[09:09:02] <deep42thought> hrrrmm, something's still wrong
[09:09:07] <deep42thought> the keys look all-right to me :-/
[09:09:26] <abaumann> 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A is not my key
[09:09:32] <deep42thought> it's mine
[09:09:38] <deep42thought> but you should sign it with your master key, too
[09:09:48] <abaumann> so my sign key is not fully trusted because it's not signed with your key?
[09:10:07] <deep42thought> I'm not sure, what the problem here really is
[09:10:46] <deep42thought> yes, 5FDCA472AB93292BC678FD59255A76DB9A12601A lacks a signature from you
[09:10:47] <abaumann> that's comforting.. I know much less.. :-)
[09:11:04] <deep42thought> but it *has* 4 valid signatures
[09:11:08] <deep42thought> that should be sufficient ...
[09:11:12] <abaumann> yeah. mine should not count..
[09:19:01] <deep42thought> I give up (for now), have to leave soonish
[09:19:52] <abaumann> np
[09:20:00] <abaumann> I also just want to finish this ruby-mess
[09:21:00] <abaumann> Device: /dev/sdd [SAT], 1 Offline uncorrectable sectors
[09:21:05] <abaumann> a new disk, a new error.
[09:21:13] <abaumann> I start to think the whole batch is bogus
[09:21:37] <abaumann> # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 1395 -
[09:21:56] <abaumann> Let's patch the firmware.. I start to think this is a software bug.
[09:23:18] <deep42thought> maybe a bogus controller?
[09:23:33] <abaumann> nah. I have 3 other disks on that motherboard
[09:23:43] <abaumann> should be handled by the same chip
[09:24:06] <abaumann> the firmware is not the same on the batch of 4 disks
[09:24:32] <abaumann> should have checked before installing them into the raid (*sigh*)
[09:35:51] <deep42thought> cu
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[09:35:58] <abaumann> cu
[09:50:39] <buildmaster> i486/ruby-rugged is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
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[09:53:05] <buildmaster> pentium4/ruby-rugged is broken (says eurobuild3): https://archlinux32.org
[10:00:36] <buildmaster> i486/ruby-sqlite3 is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[10:02:48] <buildmaster> i686/ruby-rugged is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[10:04:14] <buildmaster> i686/ruby-sqlite3 is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[10:05:42] <buildmaster> pentium4/ruby-sqlite3 is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[10:05:53] <buildmaster> any/ruby-tilt is broken (says eurobuild6-4) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2019-12-23: https://archlinux32.org
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[10:08:07] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
[15:24:01] <buildmaster> i486/gdal is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[15:25:52] <buildmaster> i486/python-autobahn is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[15:28:05] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
[15:43:45] <buildmaster> i486/go is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[16:00:33] <buildmaster> any/puppet is broken (says rechenknecht) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2019-11-20: https://archlinux32.org
[19:18:06] <buildmaster> i486/nodejs-lts-erbium is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[19:46:43] <buildmaster> girls, my database is dirty again ...
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