#archlinux32 | Logs for 2020-06-19

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[03:16:26] <buildmaster> i486/wf-recorder is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[04:04:37] <nit-picker> The following packages are longer than 3 days in pentium4/staging:
[04:04:38] <nit-picker> kdevelop-5.5.2-2.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[04:04:38] <nit-picker> aom-2.0.0-1.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[04:04:38] <nit-picker> dbus-1.12.18-1.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[04:04:38] <nit-picker> dbus-docs-1.12.18-1.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[04:04:38] <nit-picker> x265-3.4-1.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[04:04:38] <nit-picker> ... (21 total)
[04:34:37] <nit-picker> The following packages are longer than 3 days in i486/staging:
[04:34:37] <nit-picker> gptfdisk-1.0.5-1.2-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[04:34:37] <nit-picker> irssi-1.2.2-2.1-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[04:34:37] <nit-picker> libplacebo-1.29.1-3.1-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[04:34:37] <nit-picker> libpsl-0.21.0-2.4-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[04:34:37] <nit-picker> curl-7.70.0-1.1-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[04:34:37] <nit-picker> ... (594 total)
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[04:43:05] <nit-picker> deep42thought: your slave nlopc46 builds any/rabbitmq for more than a day, now (5 day(s) 12:11:56)
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[05:18:29] <nit-picker> The following packages are longer than 3 days in i686/community-staging:
[05:18:29] <nit-picker> pd-0.51.0-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-06 (12 days)
[05:18:29] <nit-picker> haskell-xml-types-0.3.7-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-07 (11 days)
[05:18:29] <nit-picker> jacktrip-1.2-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-07 (11 days)
[05:18:29] <nit-picker> haskell-libxml-sax-0.7.5-24.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-07 (11 days)
[05:18:29] <nit-picker> libtermkey-0.22-2.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-07 (11 days)
[05:18:29] <nit-picker> ... (319 total)
[05:53:09] <nit-picker> The following packages are longer than 3 days in i686/staging:
[05:53:09] <nit-picker> kdevelop-5.5.2-2.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[05:53:09] <nit-picker> aom-2.0.0-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[05:53:09] <nit-picker> dbus-1.12.18-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[05:53:09] <nit-picker> dbus-docs-1.12.18-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[05:53:09] <nit-picker> x265-3.4-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-09 (9 days)
[05:53:09] <nit-picker> ... (36 total)
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[06:13:35] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[06:13:35] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[06:13:36] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> haskell-base-compat-batteries.. ah.. Haskell comes with batteries included.. in constrast to my Arduino box..
[06:16:41] <nit-picker> The following packages are longer than 3 days in pentium4/community-staging:
[06:16:41] <nit-picker> pd-0.51.0-1.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-06 (12 days)
[06:16:41] <nit-picker> haskell-xml-types-0.3.7-1.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-07 (11 days)
[06:16:41] <nit-picker> jacktrip-1.2-1.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-07 (11 days)
[06:16:41] <nit-picker> haskell-libxml-sax-0.7.5-24.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-07 (11 days)
[06:16:41] <nit-picker> libtermkey-0.22-2.0-pentium4.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-06-07 (11 days)
[06:16:41] <nit-picker> ... (329 total)
[06:26:34] <nit-picker> The following packages are longer than 3 days in i486/community-staging:
[06:26:34] <nit-picker> sord-0.16.4-1.4-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[06:26:34] <nit-picker> tcplay-3.3-1.1-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[06:26:34] <nit-picker> xwallpaper-0.6.5-1.1-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[06:26:34] <nit-picker> zita-ajbridge-0.8.4-1.1-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[06:26:34] <nit-picker> fdkaac-1.0.0-1.9-i486.pkg.tar.zst: since 2020-05-05 (44 days)
[06:26:34] <nit-picker> ... (142 total)
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[06:39:30] <buildmaster> !rq buildmaster
[06:39:30] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
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[07:19:39] <abaumann> aha. the buildmaster has no ipv6 reverse entry..
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[07:21:05] <abaumann> though we are out of RATS-Dyna now..
[07:21:35] <trotz> 2020/06/19 07:21 OK jeti100 PING PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 13.37 ms
[07:21:35] <trotz> 2020/06/19 07:21 OK jeti100 SSH SSH OK - OpenSSH_8.3 (protocol 2.0)
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[07:26:35] <trotz> 2020/06/19 07:26 OK jeti100 Archive HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 821 bytes in 0.133 second response time
[07:26:35] <trotz> 2020/06/19 07:26 OK jeti100 Archive Secure HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 619 bytes in 0.109 second response time
[07:26:35] <trotz> 2020/06/19 07:26 OK jeti100 Master Mirror Secure HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1408 bytes in 0.079 second response time
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[07:44:51] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[07:44:51] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[07:44:52] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> golang-asvnp-acwduac-sefc-evfsx-vb4fs-sefvcy is broken (says me)
[07:45:04] <deep42thought> good morning, abaumann (and everyone else)!
[07:45:41] <deep42thought> I disabled `-p` in db-update for now - it is currently quite broken (but fixable)
[07:45:46] <deep42thought> just FYI
[07:50:41] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[07:51:02] <abaumann> ah. ok. good to know so I don't break things accidentially. :-)
[07:51:09] <deep42thought> you cannot
[07:51:17] <deep42thought> except if you remove my short-plug :-)
[07:51:19] <abaumann> don't be so sure ;-)
[07:51:24] <abaumann> :->
[07:51:34] <abaumann> I'm really good at breaking things.
[07:51:36] <deep42thought> please don't try to prove me wrong
[07:51:41] <deep42thought> :-D
[07:51:41] <abaumann> no worries.
[07:58:37] <deep42thought> I killed my i486 vms (again). IIRC, I had some trouble last time when I simply setarch-chroot'ed into them and run `pacman -Syu`. Can anyone remember?
[08:00:29] <abaumann> I don't remember.
[08:00:53] <deep42thought> I'll just go the same foolish path again :-)
[08:02:30] <abaumann> I usually stick the CF to a CF reader, mount and fix it there.
[08:02:34] <abaumann> *into
[08:03:04] <deep42thought> \o/
[08:03:13] <deep42thought> I got over the boot splash-screen :-)
[08:03:23] <abaumann> :-)
[08:03:39] <deep42thought> Error device /dev/sda1 not found. Skipping fsck.
[08:09:59] <abaumann> so, now there is also proper reverse DNS handling for IPv6
[08:10:05] <deep42thought> :-)
[08:10:14] <abaumann> Now to the outlook mail blocking problem.
[08:10:27] <deep42thought> maybe that's solved, now, too?
[08:10:46] <abaumann> maybe.
[08:11:27] <abaumann> that would mean they checked IPv6 PTR and their policy is simply dropping emails if the PTR record is pointing to something sounding to generic
[08:11:48] <deep42thought> yep, why not?
[08:11:52] <abaumann> which reminds me: I have the same issue in the office with IPv4 only and a correct IPv4 PTR record.
[08:11:56] <abaumann> *sigh*
[08:11:58] <abaumann> yeah.
[08:12:15] <abaumann> the bigger the mail provider the harder it gets to get whitelisted..
[08:13:08] <abaumann> what's really annoying: collegues and bosses don't understand why it is so hard to set up a mail server and keep it clean, they take it for granted..
[08:13:36] <deep42thought> yeah, mail servers are hard to keep them right
[08:13:40] <abaumann> ..I'm at the point of outsourcing everything, just to have a less stressy job.
[08:14:32] <abaumann> at least I could convince them to use mailgun/mailchimp for their marketing newsletter and stuff, in order to keep the main mailserver clean.
[08:14:44] <deep42thought> a friend suggested not to run my own mail server - and he's not the techophobe kind of person, he simply meant: you can do too much wrong with your own mail server
[08:14:55] <deep42thought> never heard of mailgun/mailchimp
[08:15:18] <abaumann> handy services to send out bulk emails, when you have a lot to send.
[08:15:30] <abaumann> the problem is: a marketing campaign looks very similar to a spamming attack.
[08:15:39] <abaumann> so you should never do it over normal mail servers
[08:15:47] <deep42thought> yeah
[08:16:02] <abaumann> those providers then make special deals with big mail providers, so that mail doens't end up in spam folders.
[08:16:10] <deep42thought> I think, google has some ways to mark marketing emails, so they don't affect your spamminess
[08:16:16] <abaumann> they also provide services like easy deregistration from newsletters and such.
[08:16:25] <abaumann> yep.
[08:16:30] <abaumann> I think so to.
[08:16:31] <abaumann> too
[08:18:16] <abaumann> 2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0....ip6.arpa. 3600 IN PTR mail3.archlinux32.org.
[08:18:20] <abaumann> this looks much better now.
[08:18:30] <abaumann> I have to learn a lot about IPv6.
[08:18:40] <abaumann> It's a completely different beast..
[08:21:04] <deep42thought> ah, right, I remember my last problem
[08:21:14] <deep42thought> I had to boot the fallback image and recreate the initramdisk
[08:21:26] <deep42thought> because the autodetect did not detect the correct features when chrooted
[08:21:36] <abaumann> because the cf* module?
[08:21:44] <deep42thought> it's a vm
[08:21:48] <abaumann> ah
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[09:13:10] <deep42thought> for whatever reason, I cannot log into my i486 vms anymore
[09:13:30] <deep42thought> they boot fine and don't show any (relevant) errors, but sshing into them won't work :-(
[09:13:42] <abaumann> you can log in via the console?
[09:14:07] <deep42thought> yes, I can log in from qemu directly
[09:14:19] <deep42thought> $ ssh arch32-bs0
[09:14:19] <deep42thought> kex_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[09:14:19] <deep42thought> Connection reset by 127.0.0.1 port 3838
[09:14:34] <abaumann> this sounds odly familiar
[09:14:38] <deep42thought> yes
[09:14:47] <deep42thought> this sounds like the issue, I got on the banana pi
[09:14:51] <deep42thought> but it cannot be the same
[09:14:57] <deep42thought> because here, we have a recent kernel
[09:15:04] <deep42thought> with all the features one could wish for
[09:15:15] * abaumann starts an alix and a 486 vm to check if he has the same issues..
[09:15:16] <deep42thought> 5.7.3-arch1-1.0
[09:15:30] <deep42thought> it's a i486 vm on an x86_64 host
[09:17:18] <buildmaster> pentium4/haskell-generic-lens are broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
[09:17:39] <abaumann> For now I can log in everyhwere. Let's update the kernel..
[09:17:59] <deep42thought> this vm runs on testing
[09:18:01] <abaumann> I have linux-5.7.2 in stable, this one seems still to work.
[09:18:03] <deep42thought> in case it matters
[09:18:25] <abaumann> I got lately so many weird bugs with Linux kernels, I would not be astonished if it would be the kernel.
[09:19:28] <buildmaster> i486/foliate is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[09:23:43] <abaumann> better, with the newest kernel I don't even get a network interface.
[09:24:01] <abaumann> and FAiled to send stream to file descriptor errors in systemd-journald while rebooting
[09:24:02] * deep42thought checks that, too
[09:24:13] <deep42thought> INDEED
[09:24:18] <deep42thought> I don't get an ipv4 address
[09:24:18] <abaumann> so, systemd journals to a file system it already unmounted.
[09:24:43] <deep42thought> ah, yes, I disregarded that systemd error
[09:24:44] * abaumann refrains to start a rant already now and rather accumulates some evidence
[09:24:51] <deep42thought> :-D
[09:25:05] <abaumann> I cannot reboot the VM..
[09:25:15] <abaumann> ah.. now.
[09:25:46] <abaumann> maybe ipv4 was removed from the kernel? ;-)
[09:26:07] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[09:26:07] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[09:26:22] <abaumann> I don't see errors while booting.
[09:26:28] <deep42thought> ipv4 is so last-millennium, it was really time to remove it
[09:26:44] <abaumann> :-)
[09:26:49] <abaumann> I have an ens3
[09:26:55] <deep42thought> me, too
[09:27:01] <deep42thought> but only with ipv6 addresses
[09:27:06] <abaumann> yeah, and I'm using systemd-networkd.
[09:27:15] <deep42thought> I think, I use netctl
[09:27:17] * deep42thought checks
[09:27:31] <deep42thought> yep
[09:27:45] <abaumann> systemd-networkd is said to be active
[09:27:52] <abaumann> but there is no ipv4 or route..
[09:28:25] <abaumann> starting a dhcpcd manually
[09:28:47] <abaumann> oups. my router has a full file system
[09:28:57] <abaumann> then it will have a hard time to give me a new lease. :-)
[09:29:00] <deep42thought> I had that, too, lately
[09:29:17] <deep42thought> I accidentally mirrored my arch mirror into a subdirectory of itself :-D
[09:29:24] <abaumann> *urgh* :-)
[09:29:48] <deep42thought> one of the mirrors did not go down, because there, the content is on a separate partition
[09:30:00] <abaumann> good decision
[09:30:18] <deep42thought> but the other mirror had really trouble - in the end, I noticed, because bareos failed to back up, because postgresql failed to start, because / was full
[09:32:31] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-cborg is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[09:33:49] <deep42thought> ah, I cannot even update my system, because the master mirror is only reachable via ipv4
[09:35:56] <abaumann> manual ip addr gets simply ignored
[09:36:01] <abaumann> this is not really normal
[09:41:48] <abaumann> the Network service is start many times during boot.
[09:41:53] <abaumann> this also doesn't look right.
[09:43:00] <deep42thought> I see also a failed job "user-runtime-dir@0.service"
[09:45:03] <abaumann> I can do a manual dhcpcd -4 ens3, I see the DHCPREQUEST/DHCPACK packets, but dhcpcd in the vm just hangs
[09:45:19] <abaumann> a case for gogo-gadgeto-strace
[09:46:00] <abaumann> some run-hook getting stuck?
[09:51:47] <nit-picker> parts of i486/fira-code are in different repositories: community, community-testing
[09:52:24] <abaumann> rsnapshot@daily.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
[09:52:30] <abaumann> today is not a good day :-(
[09:53:24] <abaumann> I blame it on a broken systemd script
[10:01:15] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-generic-lens are broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
[10:14:56] <abaumann> yeah, it's definitely kernel 5.7.3 causing all those weird effects..
[10:15:13] <abaumann> ..or maybe we need a fitting systemd version for it?
[10:15:33] <deep42thought> why should that be the case?
[10:15:44] <abaumann> 245.6-7 on 64-bit, 245.5-2.0 on testing i486
[10:15:58] <abaumann> dunno. changes in the config?
[10:15:58] <deep42thought> systemd-245.6-7.0-i486.pkg.tar.zst is in staging
[10:16:31] <abaumann> it would be weird if such small numbers in versions of packages start to play tricks
[10:17:26] <deep42thought> yup, downgrading the kernel fixes the ssh problem
[10:17:40] <abaumann> it also fixes the other systemd errors
[10:18:12] <deep42thought> I'll head over to staging and see if it works if I install everything from there :-)
[10:18:28] <abaumann> or everything breaks :-)
[10:18:35] <deep42thought> let's see
[10:21:39] <deep42thought> nope, in staging, ssh does not work either
[10:21:50] <deep42thought> got no ipv4 address
[10:22:29] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-persistent-sqlite is broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
[10:22:30] <abaumann> easy. now we just have to diff the config and/or source code of the kernel. :-)
[10:22:38] <deep42thought> lol
[10:22:52] <deep42thought> you call that "easy"?
[10:22:52] <abaumann> I'll have a look at the kernel changelogs first, maybe..
[10:25:10] <deep42thought> hmm, I scheduled my router for a reboot to the new kernel
[10:25:17] <deep42thought> I'm not certain, that this is really a good idea
[10:25:24] <abaumann> lol
[10:25:25] <deep42thought> have you tried on the alix with the new kernel?
[10:25:29] <abaumann> no
[10:25:40] * deep42thought cancels the reboot and installs the old kernel again
[10:25:43] <abaumann> because I could end up in a bricked situation too
[10:25:59] <abaumann> let me first make sure I actually have kernel 5.7.2 as package on the CF :-)
[10:26:19] <deep42thought> I have a spare router, but I would prefer not to use it :-D
[10:26:34] * abaumann nods
[10:27:04] <deep42thought> especially, since I do not reall keep both routers in sync
[10:27:06] <deep42thought> *really
[10:27:47] <abaumann> I diffed the config of the running kernels (/proc/config.gz), no difference
[10:27:58] <deep42thought> strange
[10:27:59] <abaumann> 5.7.4 is out.
[10:28:04] <abaumann> we could wait. :-)
[10:28:21] <deep42thought> you sure it will auto-fix?
[10:28:59] <buildmaster> pentium4/haskell-persistent-sqlite is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
[10:29:10] <abaumann> Qiujun Huang
[10:29:14] <abaumann> aeh.
[10:29:17] <abaumann> https://cdn.kernel.org
[10:29:29] <abaumann> A release with just one bug fixed.
[10:29:42] <abaumann> lib/vdso: Provide sanity check for cycles (again)
[10:29:44] <abaumann> a revert
[10:29:47] <abaumann> I wonder
[10:30:19] <abaumann> if the internal clocks are off in the kernel, then all kind of things can happen.
[10:31:08] <deep42thought> we can try the linux-pae 5.7.4 kernel
[10:31:16] <deep42thought> it should have already been built
[10:31:16] <abaumann> ah. good idea.
[10:31:49] * abaumann has to go over 5.7.2 first, in order to get a network to download the pae one..
[10:31:59] <deep42thought> :-D
[10:32:11] <deep42thought> no ipv6 net @home?
[10:32:16] <abaumann> nope
[10:32:21] <abaumann> also not my ISP
[10:32:44] <abaumann> maybe some test net somewhere on some vms, but that's all.
[10:33:08] <deep42thought> I use a ukrainian tunnel broker for ipv6
[10:33:15] <abaumann> it's my productive environemnt in the end.. I have to play more first with IPV6 before I upgrade production. :-)
[10:33:24] <deep42thought> has the nice side-touch of giving you russian advertisments on youtube :-D
[10:33:26] <abaumann> huh. sounds fun.
[10:33:35] <abaumann> lol
[10:35:16] <deep42thought> the kernel diff is ~5k lines
[10:35:21] <deep42thought> do you really want to look at it?
[10:35:40] <abaumann> I was kidding. I'm not qualified even to find spelling mistakes, most likely. :-)
[10:35:53] <deep42thought> hey, I have *one* commit in the kernel :-)
[10:36:02] <abaumann> wow :-)
[10:36:05] <deep42thought> maybe, that's why it's broken ;-)
[10:37:05] <deep42thought> (but it really classifies more as a "spelling correction" than as an actual code contribution)
[10:38:14] <deep42thought> I'll downgrade the kernels on my i486 build slaves, so we can at least build the new kernel when it arrives upstream
[10:38:57] <deep42thought> btw: should we rename "slave" and "master" to less-offensive terms? (there was a discussion on the bind-users mailing list about this for dns)
[10:39:45] <abaumann> yeah, I can imagine, with all the stuff happening in the US at the moment.
[10:40:08] <abaumann> I would prefer people would act on the real issues at hand and not just do pure symbolism.
[10:40:09] <deep42thought> personally, I'm fine with any name - but I'm also open for suggestions
[10:40:18] <deep42thought> yeah, this is my opinion, too
[10:40:44] <deep42thought> I just wanted to give the opportunity to speak up, if someone feels the need to
[10:41:20] <abaumann> ah. my build ("insert new or same word here") is running on i486 stable.
[10:41:40] <deep42thought> that's good
[10:41:49] <deep42thought> ... as long as linux-5.7.3 stays in testing ;-)
[10:42:13] <deep42thought> we could simply call them "builder"
[10:42:46] <abaumann> I want to point out that my machines where always called eurobuild* :-)
[10:42:47] <deep42thought> and the master could be the "coordinator"
[10:43:12] <deep42thought> scattered all around Europe ;-)
[10:43:43] <abaumann> don't ask me why euro*, the oldest machines where called europa1, then they got euro<function><number>
[10:43:52] <abaumann> euroserver, eurotv, eurobackup, euroweb
[10:44:17] <deep42thought> at least, you're not so self-centered, as I am: my machines are mainly called "erich$xyz"
[10:44:22] <abaumann> lack of imagination, I guess :-)
[10:44:35] * abaumann referes to his naming scheme
[10:45:02] <deep42thought> same, here (the lack)
[10:45:20] <deep42thought> ok, my i486 vms should be up and compiling again
[10:46:25] <deep42thought> btw: what function does a *server* do, that other machines don't?
[10:46:59] <abaumann> mmh. it was the one server for everything, then I moved more and more function to dedicated euro* machines.
[10:47:07] <deep42thought> :-)
[10:47:22] <abaumann> fun fact: eurotv is not doing TV (only the kodi frontend), euroserver has tvheadend on it and _is_ actually doing TV. :-)
[10:47:33] <deep42thought> :-D
[10:48:06] <deep42thought> in the end, names are just labels
[10:48:41] <abaumann> I should consider a naming scheme with names being longer than IPV6 addresses.. ;-)
[10:48:48] <deep42thought> lol
[10:48:57] <abaumann> noded2VsajIza2w0amtsMjM0amtsMjM0amtsMjNcC or so
[10:49:29] <deep42thought> you could put the fingerprint of the ssh-server's key in there, then you would not need to really check it upon login
[10:49:33] <abaumann> I called once a cluster of 20 machines: shoemaker-levy1 to shoemaker-levy19
[10:49:49] <abaumann> everybody who complained, I showed them how shell completion for host names works.
[10:50:09] <abaumann> good idea. :-)
[10:50:30] <abaumann> *shoemaker-levy20
[10:50:41] <deep42thought> linux 5.7.4.arch1-1 is in testing upstream, so I guess, we will not have to wait for too long
[10:50:46] <abaumann> good
[10:52:30] <deep42thought> which kernel do you want linux-olpc-xo1 to follow?
[10:52:37] <deep42thought> (which kernel's version)
[10:52:52] <abaumann> the one I'm not too lazy to update..
[10:52:59] <abaumann> ..and able to test so it actually works.
[10:53:05] <deep42thought> ah, ok
[10:53:18] <abaumann> most likely linux, so I should update to 5.7.4 now
[10:53:27] <deep42thought> I would add it to watch-versions
[10:53:44] <abaumann> but as this is basically a i486 with some changes, I want to make sure the VM works first again.
[10:53:47] <abaumann> ah.
[10:53:48] <abaumann> ok.
[10:53:48] <deep42thought> my question just aimed at: what version should I set as "upstream version"
[10:54:01] <abaumann> basically the same as for 'linux'
[10:54:10] <deep42thought> we could follow linux.org (like linux-pae does) or some archlinux kernel version
[10:54:27] <abaumann> yep.
[10:54:42] <deep42thought> programmatically, it would be easier to follow linux.org, because your kernel has no archlinux upstream equivalent
[10:54:54] <abaumann> true
[10:55:13] <deep42thought> but if you don't want to go beyond archlinux' linux version, that could be implemented, too
[10:55:18] <deep42thought> (quite easily, actually)
[10:56:03] <abaumann> didn't know that such an update checker exists.
[10:56:27] <deep42thought> https://git.archlinux32.org
[10:56:27] <phrik> Title: watch-versions - devops - Archlinux32 devs' convenience-scripts (at git.archlinux32.org)
[10:56:45] <abaumann> nice
[10:57:04] <deep42thought> it might use some specifics of my box here, so let me know if it works for you (or add some switches if it does not)
[10:57:48] <deep42thought> this script in combination with update-archlinux32-package makes me easily keep linux* and other packages keep up-to-date
[11:03:25] <abaumann> mmh. did you push kde to stable?
[11:03:54] <abaumann> or did it push itself? :-)
[11:05:12] <deep42thought> I pushed some stuff which was inconsistent across a split-package
[11:05:16] <deep42thought> let me re-check
[11:05:35] <deep42thought> i486 stuff, mainly, I think
[11:05:50] <abaumann> ah. then it pushed itself.
[11:06:06] <deep42thought> i486/community-testing/woff{,2}-fira-code i486/community-testing/ttf-fira-code i486/testing/{breeze-gtk,postgresql{,-docs,-libs}} i486/community-testing/ruby-{cairo-gobject,pango}
[11:06:30] <deep42thought> maybe during the -p move?
[11:06:54] <abaumann> I had a -p move wich was failing, so unless you also started one..?
[11:07:03] <deep42thought> I finished the -p move
[11:07:07] <abaumann> ah. ok then.
[11:07:10] <deep42thought> because the buildmaster got insane about it
[11:07:18] <deep42thought> well "finish" is probably the wrong term
[11:07:34] <deep42thought> I moved some stuff, so the buildmaster was finally happy again
[11:08:06] <abaumann> sane.
[11:08:19] <abaumann> he was insane before, not necesarily unhappy.
[11:08:40] <deep42thought> you mean, insane people are usually happier than sane people?
[11:08:56] <abaumann> depends on the levels of sanity maybe.. ;-)
[11:08:57] <deep42thought> maybe *that*s, why I usually feel much happier than the people around me seem to be :-D
[11:09:04] <abaumann> you cannot generalize..
[11:09:21] <abaumann> that's called attitude.. not sanity. :-)
[11:12:16] <deep42thought> is it safe to run `make olddefconfig` on the linux-olpc-xo1 sources in an pentium4 vm?
[11:12:29] <deep42thought> it should be, right?
[11:33:16] <abaumann> I think so.
[11:33:28] <abaumann> It should not sniff the environment.
[11:33:33] <deep42thought> good
[11:33:37] <abaumann> I think, I did it even on a 64-bit machine
[11:33:51] <deep42thought> you can try the new linux-olpc-xo1 kernel once it's built :-)
[11:33:57] <abaumann> oh. cool. :-)
[11:42:45] <deep42thought> gotta go, weekend start s:-D
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[11:53:09] <abaumann> have fun. :-)
[11:53:11] <abaumann> cu
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[11:55:20] <buildmaster> pentium4/hedgewars are broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
[12:22:03] <buildmaster> i686/linux-zen is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
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[12:24:22] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[12:24:22] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[12:24:23] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> Linux - the new Windows
[12:24:38] <buildmaster> pentium4/linux-zen is broken (says eurobuild6-1): https://archlinux32.org
[12:25:13] <abaumann> Just installed 5.7.3 on my Alix, works like a charm, so there is something about virtualized clocks and the fix in 5.7.4. I would say, we wait till that one gets from testing.
[12:25:16] <abaumann> Linux euroalix 5.7.3-arch1-1.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:55:15 +0000 i486 GNU/Linux
[12:25:23] <abaumann> ip addr -> 192.168.1.25/24
[12:25:25] <abaumann> all good.
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[13:33:29] <buildmaster> pentium4/acpi_call is broken (says nlopc46) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2020-06-16: https://archlinux32.org
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[14:34:25] <buildmaster> Hi girls!
[14:34:25] <buildmaster> !rq girls
[14:34:26] <phrik> buildmaster: <girls> isn't that a typo? shouldn't it be "haskell-base-combat-batteries"?
[15:01:49] <girls> abaumann: I can confirm, that my router operates nominal with the 5.7.3-arch1-1.0 kernel from testing :-)
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[17:47:05] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
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[17:49:02] <buildmaster> i486/skopeo is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[17:52:06] <trotz> 2020/06/19 17:51 OK jeti100 PING PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 13.40 ms
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[17:52:47] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
[17:57:06] <trotz> 2020/06/19 17:56 OK archlinux32.org Home Secure HTTP OK: HTTP/2.0 200 - 23080 bytes in 0.839 second response time
[17:57:07] <trotz> 2020/06/19 17:56 OK jeti100 Archive HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 821 bytes in 0.120 second response time
[17:57:07] <trotz> 2020/06/19 17:56 OK jeti100 Archive Secure HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 619 bytes in 0.086 second response time
[17:57:07] <trotz> 2020/06/19 17:56 OK jeti100 Master Mirror Secure HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 1408 bytes in 0.072 second response time
[18:56:43] <buildmaster> i486/prometheus are broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[23:03:35] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-yesod-persistent is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[23:05:33] <buildmaster> pentium4/haskell-yesod-persistent is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[23:07:17] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-yesod-test is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[23:11:13] <buildmaster> i686/haskell-yesod-static is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[23:15:21] <buildmaster> pentium4/haskell-yesod-test is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[23:15:26] <buildmaster> pentium4/haskell-yesod-static is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org